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Thanks SFG - couldn't get the audio to work on the second video. Dawkins sounds eminently reasonable in his comparison of philosophy and science/

Have just acquired the book to have a look at what we are trying to discuss. :)

Do you ever think that you may be a bit lofty in your replies? :rolleyes:

Was just reading that there will be a two hour show tonight on the Discovery channel about Aliens and wondered if any of the BAR people had any thoughts on the subjects of UFO's, extra-terrestrials, or even knew of people who were sure they had experienced something 'other-wordly'.

Thanks Meadow for your insight into my psyche - if that's the part of me that does or does not like analogies. Are you perhaps in the counselling business? ;)

Just read up on Richard Dawkins and our 'need' for moral philosophers. How much impact on our day to day lives do moral philosophers have? Are their writings important? Would civilization have evolved to this point without philosophers and only with scientfic discovery? Or does one...

I don't think I'd need to analyze what stubbing my toe meant, obviously it would cause pain if I stubbed it hard enough and might be meaningful if it was the cause of inconvenience. I think pain is an experience in itself.

All getting very cryptic for me and I haven't read the book either! :)

Not quite sure what you mean by an 'extreme position' Meadow. :confused:

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I found myself going back to the book last night after saying I wouldn't continue - still get a bit antsy when philosophers try to chase something down in their analyses when it really doesn't matter except in their own heads. It is what it is. I like your comment Occlith about 'visualizing...

You're lucky, my book cost quite a bit more than that, must have picked the wrong day!

Just read up on Pirsig's life (and interview on Google) and realize he was a man with many problems and many questions. It is sad. This book won't leave me alone, I keep puzzling over why the writer found it so difficult to see that other people (John) had a different outlook on dealing with...

Reached 30% of this book and realized that it simply wasn't anything I wished to pursue further. I enjoyed the physical description of the journey but when the narrator goes off on his philosophical bent, classic vs romantic, I could feel my interest waning rapidly. I guess I see a nice...

Please ignore previous post, not thinking clearly, I guess you all read ZAMM in May and are now prepared to discuss it in June and then we read Brave New World in June and discuss it starting July - the penny dropped. I have started ZAMM and not too far into it - initial impression is that the...

The heading said something about Pirsig - isn't he the author of ZAMM which we are supposed to read for June? I only downloaded it on to my Kindle a couple of days ago???

Which book are you discussing for June? Just curious.

Sounds like you've been there?

How does this work, we all read whatever book gets the most votes - read it in July and discuss it when everyone has finished or do we read it in June and discuss in July?

Hello Charles C - I hope you enjoy your time here. :)