An article for Chris 302116

[SFG75]

I thought of you when I read this.

The real enemy of the working classes.

The problem of the white working classes is only very marginally to do with immigrants. It starts with their parents, who lacked ambition, mired as they already were in the swamp of the welfare state. It grew worse with their schools, which (not least because of the lack of co-operation from their parents, but also because of the Marxist twaddle that dominates our low-achieving comprehensive school system) ended up being little more than ineffectual child-minding services. It then became terminal, with the welfare state kicking in on their behalves, as it did on their parents', removing from them incentive to work or to have any ambition.

What do you think?

I believe elements like this are true in the U.S. I know of people who purposely collect unemployment because they say: "I've busted my butt for 20 years, it's my turn to take a break now." When Obama extended unemployment benefits, it only allowed people like this more time to loaf. We also have our own Marxist twaddle in the form of Van Jones and Jeremiah Wright.

 

[ylris611203]

To start with, why is it ok to refer to the working class as white working class?

In the Uk we have a benefit system, a safety net for those who find them selves out of work. So that they do not have to beg on the streets. Unlike say, India who have their rich and they have their poor, who do have to beg on the streets.

In order to sort out those who do not want to work from those who are not able to get work but want to work, we have to be able to offer jobs to both.

It does NOT start with their parents, who lacked ambition; it starts with government policies. Would you go to work for less money then you can get by staying at home, on benefits?

If immigrants come into a country, take jobs for a lower wage and employers are willing to employ them, putting the working class workers of that country out of work, what else are they suppose to do but claim benefits.

Why is a country like the UK sending money to India to help their poor, while India spends billions on it's space programme?

The world has gone mad and the lunatics are now running the asylum.

As for Brown he is right on this occasion and as for Obama, well his honeymoon period is over, you will find that he is only human after all.

 

[joderu95]

I believe elements like this are true in the U.S. I know of people who purposely collect unemployment because they say: "I've busted my butt for 20 years, it's my turn to take a break now." When Obama extended unemployment benefits, it only allowed people like this more time to loaf. We also have our own Marxist twaddle in the form of Van Jones and Jeremiah Wright.

Of course to be able to collect the benefits you have to be separated from your job involuntarily. One can't simply quit after 20 years and collect unemployment. At least not in my state.

I've been thinking how unemployment could be reformed and one of the ways I think that might be worth trying is offering a lump sum buyout to claimants at, say 40-50% or maybe even less. I don't know the statistics but my guess is that the percentage of people who go on unemployment and then collect their full amount is very high. Why not offer a one time payment that is substantially less than the full claim and hopefully gives workers an incentive to get back to work sooner so they can do something productive with that money? Or even require that the claimant gain employment within a certain time period or be forced to pay the money back. One problem with such a plan might be an increase in fraudulent claims but if the law were written correctly I think this could be mitigated.

 

[Justin91]

Of course to be able to collect the benefits you have to be separated from your job involuntarily. One can't simply quit after 20 years and collect unemployment. At least not in my state.

I've been thinking how unemployment could be reformed and one of the ways I think that might be worth trying is offering a lump sum buyout to claimants at, say 40-50% or maybe even less. I don't know the statistics but my guess is that the percentage of people who go on unemployment and then collect their full amount is very high. Why not offer a one time payment that is substantially less than the full claim and hopefully gives workers an incentive to get back to work sooner so they can do something productive with that money? Or even require that the claimant gain employment within a certain time period or be forced to pay the money back. One problem with such a plan might be an increase in fraudulent claims but if the law were written correctly I think this could be mitigated.

Not a bad idea.

 

[Zolipara]

What an increadibly simplistic and one-sided article.
Sure there will always be a few that abuse any system, but i think you find that they are few compared to those in real need.

There are also massive (economic and otherwise) benefits to giving your population a safety net such as unemployment and welfare benefits.