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moonshot
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Are rules made to be broken?
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leckert
New Member
Here's my view:
"rules" are guidelines for behavior. There are punishments for going outside of those guidelines.
If you get caught breaking the rules, you suffer the consequences - period.
If you do not get caught breaking the rules, then you have taken a risk to get what you want. In most sectors, this is called "gutsy" and "aggressive" (a good thing). I say go for it, but don't whine when you get caught and have to pay the consequences. That's part of the deal.
I also feel that it is poor judgement to "break the rules" if it endangers the safety or impedes the rights of others. But, that's what karma is for!
"rules" are guidelines for behavior. There are punishments for going outside of those guidelines.
If you get caught breaking the rules, you suffer the consequences - period.
If you do not get caught breaking the rules, then you have taken a risk to get what you want. In most sectors, this is called "gutsy" and "aggressive" (a good thing). I say go for it, but don't whine when you get caught and have to pay the consequences. That's part of the deal.
I also feel that it is poor judgement to "break the rules" if it endangers the safety or impedes the rights of others. But, that's what karma is for!
Miss Shelf
New Member
We have to have rules (or laws) because without them there would be chaos. Are rules made to be broken? it depends on what "rules" we're talking about. It would be helpful to know what rules moonshot is talking about.
leckert
New Member
Miss Shelf said:
I really don't think it matters. What is important to me, might not be so to you. I don't believe in "subjective morality".
EVERYTHING is a choice. You don't HAVE to do anything except die. Even paying taxes is optional. The question is "are you willing to pay the consequences if you get caught?"
We need rules, and we need consequences, but NO ONE can take away our ability to make decisions.
Jemima Aslana
New Member
You called it subjective morality I call it morality vs. opinion at times.
There are rules that should never be broken necause of morality - you mention some yourself, namely when your breaking of them would endanger others.
However, when an internet forum has a rule against double-posting I see nothing morally wrong in someone breaking it. It can be annoying, it can be viewed as disrespect against the owner/Admin of the forum, but it is a minor thing and not something anyone would be sentenced to an eternity in a random hell dimension for.
Rules are not made to be broken, no. Rules are made to be abided by. Whether or not one chooses to do so is another story altogether and we could go into a long debate on crime and punishment, I'm sure.
There are rules that should never be broken necause of morality - you mention some yourself, namely when your breaking of them would endanger others.
However, when an internet forum has a rule against double-posting I see nothing morally wrong in someone breaking it. It can be annoying, it can be viewed as disrespect against the owner/Admin of the forum, but it is a minor thing and not something anyone would be sentenced to an eternity in a random hell dimension for.
Rules are not made to be broken, no. Rules are made to be abided by. Whether or not one chooses to do so is another story altogether and we could go into a long debate on crime and punishment, I'm sure.
Libre
Member
Rules are made by people and people make mistakes. Some rules are just wrong. It really irks me to abide by such rules. Rules are also made for general cases. Specific requirements override general principals.
There are times that blind obediance to a rule would be wrong and dangerous - therefore immoral. There is a rule against exceeding the speed limit. Sometimes you have to speed. There is a rule against killing. Sometimes you might have to kill. The people that made up these rules could not forsee every eventuality. It's wrong to break a good rule out of selfishness, but it may be imperitive to break a rule because the rule is inapplicable in a certain circumstance.
That's why you have a brain - sometimes you have to make a judgement.
This is the book forum. Ever read John Grisham's first book - A Time to Kill? There's a good one for you. Was he wrong to kill?
Every day we face dillemas. At the end of the day we can only hope we did our best.
There are times that blind obediance to a rule would be wrong and dangerous - therefore immoral. There is a rule against exceeding the speed limit. Sometimes you have to speed. There is a rule against killing. Sometimes you might have to kill. The people that made up these rules could not forsee every eventuality. It's wrong to break a good rule out of selfishness, but it may be imperitive to break a rule because the rule is inapplicable in a certain circumstance.
That's why you have a brain - sometimes you have to make a judgement.
This is the book forum. Ever read John Grisham's first book - A Time to Kill? There's a good one for you. Was he wrong to kill?
Every day we face dillemas. At the end of the day we can only hope we did our best.
WoundedThorns
New Member
i wonder who started saying that.. ah, cliches
it depends on the rule
it depends on the rule
StillILearn
New Member
What a coincidence. Jimmy Carter addresses this very issue in his new book: "Our Endangered Values".
I never even considered the fact that our country would be debating whether or not we could continue to torture prisoners around the world in secret prisons. This is something that's inconceivable.
That's one of the many values that this administration has changed dramatically and profoundly compared to all previous presidents who've ever served, including Ronald Reagan and including George Bush Sr. and including Gerald Ford and all the way back to Dwight Eisenhower
What about these kinds of rules?
I never even considered the fact that our country would be debating whether or not we could continue to torture prisoners around the world in secret prisons. This is something that's inconceivable.
That's one of the many values that this administration has changed dramatically and profoundly compared to all previous presidents who've ever served, including Ronald Reagan and including George Bush Sr. and including Gerald Ford and all the way back to Dwight Eisenhower
What about these kinds of rules?