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Stream Ripping.

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Wabbit

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This is SO cool :)

Discovered this program Stream Ripper It allows you to rip internet radio stations. You just leave it running, come home, and you have lots and lots of mp3. The good thing is it's not actually illegal ( note: this has NOT point has not been tested :) Great if you have a mp3 player or CD-MP3 walkman ( like me ). Internet radio at work! YAY :D

Website explaines it better that a silly wabbit.

Read this...

"StationRipper will allow you to "record" various internet radio stations. It will allow you to get a list of available Shoutcast stations and start recording them, creating a single MP3 file for each song the station plays.

It will also:

Allow you to record up to 300 streams at one time.
Buy the music and albums you are ripping.
"Memory Recording" - It will keep track of all the songs you download, copying the final song file to your music library. If that song gets re-recorded in the future, it will skip it (so, if you end up deleting it, it won't record, bloating your collection with music you don't want).
Get a list of Stations to record quickly and easily, via Shoutcast.
Track the music and stations you've ripped.
Listen to any station being recorded with a single mouse click
Schedule when you want to allow and disallow recordings, so your bandwidth will only be hit with ripping on off hours.
Re-launch ripping of up to 100 of the last Stations you've recorded with a single mouse click.
This software is free, but if you've found it useful and would like to help support its future development, please make a donation"

Did I not tell you it was cool? :D HOW cool is that???? Go, go, go and download this program!

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
AHHHH... Casio! They made those crappy little keyboards... the memories! :D

And, no Phil, i'm afraid tape is dead :(

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
BTW, if you WAS to stream rip. You should find a radio station that changes the song name WHEN it changes the song. Some of them don't and this causes your mp3's to miss bits. Some do and some don't. You will have to find the good ones for yourself. Of coarse... I would never use stream ripper. I don't, oh no......

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
Mister Wabbit, does this mean I have to leave my internet connection running? Ok that was a stupid question...

but really that's sad because I can't do that. every minute counts!

I think I'm getting myself my own unlimited internet connection once I'm on my own in college. >=)
 
SillyWabbit said:
The good thing is it's not actually illegal ( note: this has NOT point has not been tested :)
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I think this falls into the same category as recording from tv which is legal as long as it's for your own personal use and because you couldn't watch a program at a certain time. I can't remember the name of the rule actually. But basically, if you're going to be out or a programme is on really late at night, you are allowed to record it and then watch it at a more convenient time. And the same applies to radio broadcasts I believe. So if you were going to miss The Archers you could tape it and listen to it when you got home.

However, if you were to break up the recording that you've made to pull out particular songs that you like and stick them into an MP3 player, that would be pirating. Arrrrrrrr.
 
Yeah, you are basically right. I read a little about the law concerning the program. Not sure it matters if you break it up or not. I am fuzzy on that part. I can't see if would make any difference though. What difference is there if you listen to all 10 songs or if you listen to 6 in a different order? You are still listening to them. As I read it, it's ok to rip the stream and listen to it.The problem comes when you start to share and distribute them. When you do that, you are pirating them.

Anyway, ripping the stream is 100 percent anonymous. Nobody can know if you are stream ripping or if you are listening to the stream via winamp or whatever.

Anyway, i think this is great! I could listen to radio at work! Not that I do, of coarse. That has to be totally clear :D

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
If you take the songs out of context you can no longer argue that you're just listening to that radio show. You've taken the songs rather than pay for them and you're using them and listening to them several times and whenever you want to. And that's pirating.
 
HUH???

You are making no sense :)

We both agree it's ok to rip the stream and listen to them. So what difference can it make if I listen to them in order or not? NONE!!! So what if I leave them in order and listen to them several times? What if I listen to only some of it? Also, radio stations don't play the same tracks in the same order every day! By your logic. If I buy a CD and then rip it and listen to only four of the songs and in a diff order then it's piracy :confused: I really can't see the difference. And I have read the law on this. it says you can rip them and do what you like as long as you don't distribute and sell :) I really think it will make no difference HOW you listen to them.

Anyway :) It really don't matter since A) Nobody knows you ripped them and B) Even if they did know you ripped them how would they tell what you did with them once you ripped them.

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
The show doesn't just consist of songs. It also has some annoying dj whittering on in the gaps. If you cut all that out, then you aren't actually listening to the show anymore. In fact, it would suggest that you were never actually interested in the show at all, but rather that you just wanted to steal some copyrighted material.

Plus, the law in this country is set by precedent. Just because no one has been prosecuted for it yet, doesn't mean they can't be. So to a certain extent you can apply a law from one situation to a different situation, but as soon as the record companies start getting annoyed with the loop hole they'll act to close it.

I'm not going to get into an argument on the rights and wrongs of stealing other people's work, but I will say that it's a very silly thing to advertise what you do on an internet forum. You don't know who's reading it. You may think what you're doing is untraceable. But I know of at least one person who thought exactly the same as you and told everybody on a forum. And that's how they tracked him down and subsequently prosecuted him. the forum was subpoenaed for his details and he got into a whole great steaming pile of trouble.

You can only strictly listen to a program all the way through once, but the guidelines say you can actually listen to it twice. I think the law is called something like time shift or time dislocation. You can't chop it up and reuse it. It's the same for tv. Probably no one would care if you kept if you kept your old Coronation Street episodes until the day you died, and it wouldn't be worth prosecuting you over, but that doesn't mean it's legal. You may think you're allowed to do what you like with the programme, but I assure you you're not.
 
Litany said:
The show doesn't just consist of songs. It also has some annoying dj whittering on in the gaps. If you cut all that out, then you aren't actually listening to the show anymore. In fact, it would suggest that you were never actually interested in the show at all, but rather that you just wanted to steal some copyrighted material.
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Internet radio stations don't have any D.J's

Plus, the law in this country is set by precedent. Just because no one has been prosecuted for it yet, doesn't mean they can't be. So to a certain extent you can apply a law from one situation to a different situation, but as soon as the record companies start getting annoyed with the loop hole they'll act to close it.
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Yes, I already made that point in my first posting. As it stands right now it is legal to do this. The point has never been tested so... who knows?


I'm not going to get into an argument on the rights and wrongs of stealing other people's work, but I will say that it's a very silly thing to advertise what you do on an internet forum. You don't know who's reading it. You may think what you're doing is untraceable. But I know of at least one person who thought exactly the same as you and told everybody on a forum. And that's how they tracked him down and subsequently prosecuted him. the forum was subpoenaed for his details and he got into a whole great steaming pile of trouble.
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You are right. And I have stated time and time again. That I DON'T rip the stream. Even though it is legal as I understand it. I don't do it. Nope. I think, its totally wrong!

You can only strictly listen to a program all the way through once, but the guidelines say you can actually listen to it twice. I think the law is called something like time shift or time dislocation. You can't chop it up and reuse it. It's the same for tv. Probably no one would care if you kept if you kept your old Coronation Street episodes until the day you died, and it wouldn't be worth prosecuting you over, but that doesn't mean it's legal. You may think you're allowed to do what you like with the programme, but I assure you you're not.
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Yes, I know all about that, fair use and all. If you was to rip the stream and just listen to it so you could have radio when you are not at your computer, that would be legal. Not that I do that, of coarse. never. Because I don't!

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
Internet radio stations don't have any D.J's
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Erm ... you can get Internet radio for most stations such as Capital, etc. nowadays, so tht you can listen to them even outside their broadcast area.

Just being helpful ;)

Phil
 
Yeah, I know that. Stream Ripper deals with Shout cast. Although you can add a url. I was just being general.

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
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