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Suggestions: July 2013: Books You Always Wanted to Read but Haven't

Polly Parrot

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Title is pretty much self explanatory. Any book you think you (and possibly everyone else, too) should have read at some point but never got round to doing. Obviously, this can be a classic or something more recent.

I think after this one we should be back on schedule as far as allowing time to read the book prior to the discussion goes. :D
 
421: The Year China Discovered the World - Gavin Menzies

I have been meaning to read it for absolute ages and weirdly downloaded the follow on "1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance" instead.

He claims that from 1421 to 1423, during the Ming Dynasty of China under Emperor Zhu Di (朱棣) the fleets of Admiral Zheng He (鄭和), commanded by the Chinese captains Zhou Wen (周聞), Zhou Man (周滿), Yang Qing (楊慶), and Hong Bao (洪保), discovered Australia, New Zealand, the Americas, Antarctica, and the Northeast Passage; circumnavigated Greenland, tried to reach the North and South Poles, and circumnavigated the world before Ferdinand Magellan. The book has been published in many languages and countries around the world and was listed as a New York Times best seller for several weeks in 2003. Although the book contains numerous footnotes, references and acknowledgments, critics point out that it lacks supporting references for Chinese voyages beyond East Africa, the location acknowledged by professional historians as the limit of the fleet's travels. Menzies bases his main theory on original interpretations and extrapolations of academic studies of minority population DNA, archaeological finds and ancient maps.

Menzies claims that knowledge of Zheng He's discoveries was subsequently lost because the Mandarin bureaucrats of the Imperial court feared that the costs of further voyages would ruin the Chinese economy. He conjectures that when Zhu Di died in 1424 and the new Hongxi Emperor forbade further expeditions, the Mandarins hid or destroyed the records of previous exploration to discourage further voyages. Tan Ta Sen, president of the International Zheng He Society, has acknowledged the book's popular appeal as well as its scholarly failings:
Agree or disagree with his assertions there should be a lot of interesting debate around just who discovered America first - the Chinese? Vikings? or Johnny-come-lately old Christopher Columbus?
 
421: The Year China Discovered the World - Gavin Menzies

I have been meaning to read it for absolute ages and weirdly downloaded the follow on "1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance" instead.


Agree or disagree with his assertions there should be a lot of interesting debate around just who discovered America first - the Chinese? Vikings? or Johnny-come-lately old Christopher Columbus?

I second this :)
 
And if no-one suggests another book! I have too admit that I can't think of a single book to suggest.
 
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
A future world in which consumption and comfort have overcome other vital needs, the population is controlled by drugs and chemical manipulation.
 
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley

Actually there are a whole lot of books in that genre - might make an interesting discussion ... Brave New World, 1984, Clockwork Orange, Never Let Me Go, The Running Man, Fahrenheit 451, Logan's Run .... but not as BOTM I don't think ...
 
Why not for BOTM? I think almost any book would be suitable for BOTM, provided there are several people willing to discuss and it's not a big huge book like Joyce's Ulysses for the simple reason there won't be enough time to finish them prior to discussion.

I'm still thinking about what to suggest myself.
 
Hmm. I might be able to set up a project to do a series of books like that, if you want. Just for the fun of comparing the several works. :)

Similarly, the following books have the common theme of the mad woman in the attic:
Ann Radcliffe, The Mysteries of Udolpho (1794) and The Mysteries of Udolpho (1794); Jane Eyre, Northanger Abbey (1807); Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre; and, finally, Jean Rhys, Wide Sargasso Sea (1966).


My suggestion for July: James Kelman, A Disaffection
 
LOL we have a hard enough time persuading a few people to read and talk about one book ... and you are keen for a discussion on several? I think you and I would be the only one's doing it :) :) :)
 
And we tend to agree with each other on books LOL ... unless we agree to take opposing sides just like in a debate just to make it interesting? :rofl
 
Was looking to see what the suggestion was for the BOTM for July thinking I might have a go but after Googling the content I think I'll pass - the 'stream of consciousness' was a bit of an obstacle for me but the capper was the Glasgow dialect. Will try again for the August one. :)
 
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Was looking to see what the suggestion was for the BOTM for July thinking I might have a go but after Googling the content I think I'll pass - the 'stream of consciousness' was a bit of an obstacle for me but the capper was the Glasgow dialect. Will try again for the August one. :)

You could suggest something yourself :)
 
I think my reading choices might not be up market enough for a book discussion. Seem to gravitate to thrillers and mystery and not much into the psychology and symbolism of what the author meant. However, I could certainly find something from a given list I'm sure if there is a sampling of what the book is about, unless, of course it's one I've already read. :D
 
A book I've been meaning to read for years is William Golding's The Inheritors. What happens when Neanderthals meet our ancestors.
 
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