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The what is this quote referring to game?

Motokid

Motokid

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Here is a quote I lifted from a news article.

One hundred million women worldwide have undergone the procedure, which happens to three million girls under 10 every year. It is carried out by both Christian and Muslim communities.
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Can you guess what it's referring to?
 
Motokid said:
Here is a quote I lifted from a news article.



Can you guess what it's referring to?
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I know, I know..should I tell? Or should I give someone else a chance to guess first?
 
I think you might be cheating if you state it right away. ;)

Please give others a chance sweet lady. :)
 
My guess would be that it's referring to the practice of "female circumcision".
 
All should read this entire article <-- clicky

It's really quite sad, frustrating, and infuriating.

With type 1 and type 2, there is no problem whatsoever with pregnancy or childbirth," he told the BBC's World Today programme, pointing out that 90% of Egyptian women are circumcised.
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Type one - where the clitoris is removed
Type two - where the clitoris and surrounding labia are removed
Type three - where the clitoris and labia are removed
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However, Egyptian doctor Professor Munir Falsi denies that type 1 or type 2 FGM, which he calls "female circumcision" is cruel, or dangerous.
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What is the purpose of this procedure? The article only mentions that it has to do with "protecting" a girl's honour, but does anyone know any more details on what this is supposed to achieve?
 
Tradition and blind faith in something that has been passed down for generations and generations without anybody questioning what is being done, and/or why?


In many cases it's older females doing this to younger females. :confused:
 
see wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_circumcision

Female genital cutting is primarily a social practice, not a religious one. It is today a mainly African cultural practice. It crosses the lines of various religious groups. It is found among Muslims and Animists. [15]

A number of reasons are put forward for the practice of FGC. These include the belief that it annuls or moderates sexual desires in women. It is also believed that it is more hygienic. Frequently the practice is associated with traditional initiation rites. Some believe religion justifies the practice.

In some cultures there exists the belief that a newborn child has elements of both sexes. In the male body the foreskin of the penis is considered to be the female element. In the female body the clitoris is considered to be the male element. Hence when the adolescent is reaching puberty, these elements are removed to make the indication of sex clear.

The operation is most often carried out by female practitioners. Thus it has been attributed by some authors to a deep-rooted fear of elder women that the more attractive younger women might seduce away their husbands and thus leave them without support.
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If it carried out by "Christian and Muslim communities" --- or ANY relgious based communties --- it HAS to be bad.
I knew what it was right away.
But why stop there?
How many MALES worldwide have been circumsized? Whatever number you come up with, add 1 for me.
Why do we placidly accept that, while we are infuriated by the female counterpart? Don't you see it's just as bad?
Whether or not you subscribe to the BIG-INVISIBLE-MAN-IN-THE-SKY theory or you don't (and I obviously don't) the idea that doctors OR clergymen "improve" little boys and girls out of the womb by cutting something off their genitals is - obscene.
Those of you that are going to tell me that innoculations amount to the same thing, well, just stow it because it doesn't.
Oh, I've heard it's hygenic.
Let's pull everybody's teeth out! Think of the cavities you'll be preventing!
 
The point is, with female circumcision, that ruins their sexual pleasure, whereas circumcision in males doesn't. At least not that I know of. :rolleyes: The two cannot be lumped together. I've read of women having their vaginas sewn so there is just a little hole for menstrual purposes, and when they have sex, it's excruciating. Supposedly it's to make them remain faithful to their husbands. I hope the perpetrators of this backwards practice rot in hell. :mad:
 
Miss Shelf said:
The point is, with female circumcision, that ruins their sexual pleasure, whereas circumcision in males doesn't. At least not that I know of. :rolleyes: The two cannot be lumped together.
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Well, that makes me feel much much better about having had the end of my dick hacked off as an infant.
Does anyone realize that men can be the victims of sexist attitudes - or is that an injustice strictly reserved for females?
Miss Shelf, can you explain exactly why the two can't be "lumped" together?
I'm not about to say that women have not been victimized - and out of proportion with their numbers, too. Yes, I agree. But why is it when a man suffers some kind of sexual harm - be it circumcision, sexual harassment, all the way up to including rape - it is minimized, trivialized, and forgotten.
eg. So he was raped. But did you see the English Teacher that raped him? Lucky Bastard!

Where are the marches and drives to raise money and awareness for prostate cancer - can you answer that?
 
I can see where both Libre and Miss Shelf are coming from in this one. Although I believe that male circumcision is outdated and should be abolished, I believe that the female counterpart is much more inhumane. As Miss Shelf stated, they are circumcising the female purely to remove any chance of pleasure for her during intercourse - an entirely sexist motive. Male circumcision, however, does not involve this level of sexism, as it does not disadvantage the male child at all.

Libre said:
But why is it when a man suffers some kind of sexual harm - be it circumcision, sexual harassment, all the way up to including rape - it is minimized, trivialized, and forgotten.
eg. So he was raped. But did you see the English Teacher that raped him? Lucky Bastard!
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Is it possible for a man to be raped? From the very little that I understand, if he's not enjoying it it won't become erect, and therefore no raping can occur. :confused:

Where are the marches and drives to raise money and awareness for prostate cancer - can you answer that?
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We have drives in NZ to raise awareness for prostate cancer. I'm pretty sure that we even have a day for it.
 
Miss Shelf said:
I have to ask, Moto: why did you pick this topic for discussion?
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Well lets see. Shock of all shockers....Moto read The Vagina Monologues. :D

But more recently, as I'm sure you can tell, I scan the bbc and cnn news sites daily. This topic was, one day, on the home page of the BBC news site.

As a father of daughters it tore my heart out to think of what was happening in vast portions of a continent the size of Africa.

My heart used to break when I might have cut one of my daughters fingernails a tad too short when they were younger. I can't imagine subjecting any child to that.

I asked my wife and oldest daughter (13 years old) to read the article. I think it's important for everybody, ladies and men to know what happens in some parts of the world. Especially when it something of this nature. We've got idiots in America that are about ready to shit their pants over the possibility of "gay marriage" yet in Africa 3 million girls are having this procedure done every year.

I think a lot of people are oblivious to some very harsh traditions and practices that still exist in this world even in 2006.
 
Libre said:
How many MALES worldwide have been circumsized?
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Libre, I really respect many things that you say, and I love to hear your opinions and such, but in this case I'd have to say you are so far off-base it's not really even funny.

To compare the traditional male circumcision to what's being practiced on these females is really quite pathetic. You might as well compare ear piercing to a complete mastectomy.

Unless your circumcision completely removed the entire end of your junk, or perhaps both your testicles were removed, what happened to you is completely different. Not to mention that your procedure what probably not done by an person with no medical training in some dirt hut with absolutely no sanitary considerations what-so-ever.

You have a wonderful arguement about the need for male circumcision, and prostate cancer, and male sexual abuse and stuff, but there's really no comparison between male circum. and what's being done to these poor girls in the article I've posted about.
 
Moto

To compare the traditional male circumcision to what's being practiced on these females is really quite pathetic. You might as well compare ear piercing to a complete mastectomy.
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For you to call my comparison "pathetic" shows that you are completely ignorant of the details of this inhumane practice - a practice that has no value other than appeasing religious fanatics.
I don't equate the two - female circumcision is worse - far worse. I have not said that they are identically bad. I'm only pointing out that it is rarely mentioned that male infants suffer genital mutilation - although it is far more widespread (ouch) than the female version. We all take it as a matter of course, because we are so used to it. I'm used to it myself - I don't think about it much. After all, I've been circumsized practically all my life. But if we weren't so jaded to it, if the practice were rare, and we heard this was being done to little boys in some Islamic country or some African tribe, we would be furious with the inhumanity of it.

Unless your circumcision completely removed the entire end of your junk, or perhaps both your testicles were removed, what happened to you is completely different.
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A normal, healthy part of my body that belonged on my penis was torn off me, when I was an infant, unable to give my consent. I don't see why you treat this as trivial as an ear piercing - which, by the way, should also NOT be done to infant children. If an adult wants to have their body mutilated, that's their business.

Not to mention that your procedure what probably not done by an person with no medical training in some dirt hut with absolutely no sanitary considerations what-so-ever.
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How wrong you are there!
I don't remember my "briss" but I did witness my nephew's briss when he was about 1 week old. As the family looked on (some of them cheering), his foreskin was torn off by a "moyle" while he was restrained on the dining room table. The unsterilized device that was used looked something like an eyelash curler, and when I use the term "torn off" I'm being accurate. This moyle may have had religious training but he was anything but a doctor! My nephew received no anesthetic and his tiny legs were held apart and pinned down by a towel. Not a dirt hut, perhaps, but far from a medical setting.
I passed out.
 
Libre said:
Moto
you are completely ignorant of the details of this inhumane practice
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You couldn't be more correct there my friend, as this usually happens so soon after birth that it's impossible to remember. I would guess, that in America most male procedures are done for cosmetic, non-religious reasons with the exception of those in the Jewish faith. So therefore, my guess was based on little baby boys having this done in the hospital hours after birth, and basically because that has become the normal thing for parents to do to little boys.

Which is why I would compare it to ear piercing.

The value outside of the religious component in the Jewish faith is hygene for the most part. Or at least that's the most common heard arguement for this practice from what I've heard.

I would still hesitate to call it mutilation, but probably be more comfortable to refer to it as alteration.

I have two daughters so this was not an issue for me as a parent.

I wonder what parents of boys who are not Jewish have done and why?

What is the Jewish reasoning behind this practice?
 
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