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clothing - in general - in public

Motokid

Motokid

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Here's a great story I heard discussed on a conservative talk radio show a few days ago...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/19/flipflop.flap.ap/index.html

The discussion led into how the world seems to be getting more and more casual, and is that a problem or not? Is it disrespectful to not wear formal attire to church, or to a Broadway Play? Is it disrespectful to wear sneakers or jeans to work, or a funeral, or church? Is a lawyer anymore of a lawyer if he's wearing a polo shirt instead of a suit and tie?

What's more important, that you are there, or what you are wearing?

Now I'm not talking about ripped jeans, or cut-off shorts with ass-cheeks showing, or Metallica t-shirts with the sleeves cut off so underarm hair is sprouting from all viewable areas...

If your clothing is in good order, and you are clean (free from B.O.), and you are well behaved, why should it matter what the hell you wear?

Why can't an athletic team visit the White House, in the heat of the summer and not have to be concerned with whether or not they are wearing "appropriate" footwear?

How much do clothes reflect respect?
 
i love clothes, love getting new ones, but overall do not put much stock in the status they bring. i am a jeans and t kinda girl. my new favourite t being a dave matthews band t that ricky got me. the only status it affords is with fellow dmb'ers.
but i do feel that certain situations warrant certain types of dress, like you mentioned weddings, funerals, important visits etc. to me it is the same as using good manners. you are showing respect by taking the time to dress in a manner that is appropriate for the occastion.
 
jenngorham said:
you are showing respect by taking the time to dress in a manner that is appropriate for the occastion.
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I would argue that you show respect by "behaving" in a specific manner, and that by simply just being there, and being on time is way more important than what you are wearing.
 
There are times when it matters. Kerry shoes at the White house was very disrespectful.

I remember reading a study that showed casual wear at work had a negative impact on professionalism and productivity. So there is something to be said for "cloths makes the man."

Consider too that one of the things that mark an occasion is dressing for an occasion.
 
This was a lacrosse team. A sports team. They should have worn their uniform complete with cleats. They were there because they won a national championship not to discuss the Iraq situation or plan for a new energy source for the country.

What about going to church? Why does it matter what you wear as long as you are there?
 
Motokid said:
This was a lacrosse team. A sports team. They should have worn their uniform complete with cleats. They were there because they won a national championship not to discuss the Iraq situation or plan for a new energy source for the country.

What about going to church? Why does it matter what you wear as long as you are there?
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I think church is a different matter. I really don't believe God cares what people wear in church, just so long as they make it.
 
Would you choose to do your banking based on one group of employees wearing formal business attire, or the other wearing more casual business attire?

One bank the guys are in suits and ties, the other the guys have khaki's and collared, golf-type polo shirts? Do you base your opinions on what these guys wear as to their ability to manage your money better?
 
Motokid said:
Would you choose to do your banking based on one group of employees wearing formal business attire, or the other wearing more casual business attire?

One bank the guys are in suits and ties, the other the guys have khaki's and collared, golf-type polo shirts? Do you base your opinions on what these guys wear as to their ability to manage your money better?
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I just might. The last thing I want is for my savings to be handled by people that are less than professional.
 
There was a recent article about how, in Japan, employees were being encouraged to dress in 'professional casual' rather than suits. That is, to wear polo shirts and either dress pants or dockers. The reasoning behind this was actually related to energy usage, as offices with workers in more casual attire did not need to air condition their buildings to the same extent.

We have created this culture of a suit being interpretted as some kind of higher form of professionalism. I think it can, and is, being changed and for the better. While I love the sight of a man in a tux, I don't think that it should be necessary to wear a full suit to your office each day just to be perceived as 'professional'.

That being said, there are situations where a suit and tie should still be worn, for example: important meetings with clients, in parliment, to formal engagements (weddings, funerals, balls, etc), professional presentations, etc. But this is just my feeling, and obviously depends on your clients and, in the case of weddings and other engagements, you own style

I think that there are a lot of double standards as far as dress goes between men and women. Women seem to be able to get away with a lot more, which doesn't necessarily seem fair. I imagine this must stick in the craw of some men - any comments on that?
 
Robert said:
I just might. The last thing I want is for my savings to be handled by people that are less than professional.
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What has clothing got to do with professionalism?

Isn't it more important which bank offers the best service, the best return on your money, and the highest level of safety for your investment?

Clothes don't give you that. You are not a better person in a tuxedo than you are in a pair of Dockers and a polo shirt. You are not a better business person depending on which clothes you wear either.

Clothes do not make the person.
 
Kookamoor said:
I think that there are a lot of double standards as far as dress goes between men and women. Women seem to be able to get away with a lot more, which doesn't necessarily seem fair. I imagine this must stick in the craw of some men - any comments on that?
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I've noticed that too. I can't do anything about it so why worry about it?
 
in a working atmosphere i could care less. i would bank with a guy in a hawaiin shirt if he was going to get me more bang for my buck. and as to church, i don't think it really matters either.
my argument is more in line with what robert said, about dressing for the occasion to help mark the occasion. brand name or 2nd hand, it's the effort put into looking nice that is important.
 
Robert said:
I've noticed that too. I can't do anything about it so why worry about it?
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True... but shouldn't standards be the same? Why do we interpret a woman with a briefcase in a floral skirt and pink boob-revealing top to be of equal professionalism to a bloke in a suit and tie? Or do we?
 
Kookamoor said:
True... but shouldn't standards be the same? Why do we interpret a woman with a briefcase in a floral skirt and pink boob-revealing top to be of equal professionalism to a bloke in a suit and tie? Or do we?
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Because men are sexist pigs???? And who doesn't like a opportunity to see some boobage?
 
Kookamoor said:
True... but shouldn't standards be the same? Why do we interpret a woman with a briefcase in a floral skirt and pink boob-revealing top to be of equal professionalism to a bloke in a suit and tie? Or do we?
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Where I work, men wear a suit or trousers, dress shirt and tie. The trousers are usually wool. Very nice. Women can get away with cotton slacks and something that looks like a heavy tee-shirt.

I will never complain about boob-revealing tops.
 
looking nice. ok so that is a pretty generic term, i mean appropriate to the occasion.
and now i am going to be asked to define appropriate to the occasion, and i will say, oh shut up, i have to go to the beach. i will argue with you later.
 
jenngorham said:
looking nice. ok so that is a pretty generic term, i mean appropriate to the occasion.
and now i am going to be asked to define appropriate to the occasion, and i will say, oh shut up, i have to go to the beach. i will argue with you later.
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love you sweet lips....have a good day, and don't forget the SPF....

can I see your tan lines when you return???
 
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