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clothing - in general - in public
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Motokid
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I'll agree that funerals, job interviews, and court appearances are pretty important, and should require pretty formal attire. Weddings, depending on the relationship with the couple being married I think has some lee-way (spelling?).
Again....I'm not saying frayed, ragged pants/shorts, belly shirts, and cut-off t-shirts are fine everywhere...
Again....I'm not saying frayed, ragged pants/shorts, belly shirts, and cut-off t-shirts are fine everywhere...
clueless
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Robert said:
Did you read the size of the pole? Whatever you heard before, no-one likes to be impaled.
And now back to clothes. My father used to wear a three piece suite to work. My brother, doing the same type of job, has never worn a suit since his wedding day.
Habits are different in different countries. I still find hard having to wear a suit to work. Skirt suits were worn by my mother's generation, but went out of fashion after that. Trouser suits are not very popular either, although they are more common than skirt ones.
On the other hand, people back home dress up to go out and here they don't.
Which manager to I take more seriously, the one with well fitting ironed slacks, shirt neatly tucked in, or the guy with wrinkly ill fitting slacks and his shirt sloppily tucked in? The first. Why? Because his appearance implies that he is more serious about what is expected of him. It implies that he takes his job serious and will do his job with utmost care. Based on his appearance I feel that I am likely to get better, more reliable, service and that he will treat me with respect.
Someone who cannot bother dressing for the job appears as someone who simply doesn't care - how they are perceived, how the job is performed, how I feel when I leave, etc.
My business goes to those who I think dress appropriately for their position. That does not at all mean that I expect people to be in suits though.
Someone who cannot bother dressing for the job appears as someone who simply doesn't care - how they are perceived, how the job is performed, how I feel when I leave, etc.
My business goes to those who I think dress appropriately for their position. That does not at all mean that I expect people to be in suits though.
clueless
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Renee, what you say is true, but it has to do more with presentation of the clothes than with the type of clothes themselves.
Here, for example, banks have uniforms for employees but there are still differences. There are people with dirty, wrinkly, untucked shirts and others with clean, well ironed clothes. That says a lot about their personality.
But, as you say yourself, it hasn't got to be suits. I am amazed suits have lasted so long. I don't think any other type of clothes did.
Here, for example, banks have uniforms for employees but there are still differences. There are people with dirty, wrinkly, untucked shirts and others with clean, well ironed clothes. That says a lot about their personality.
But, as you say yourself, it hasn't got to be suits. I am amazed suits have lasted so long. I don't think any other type of clothes did.
Motokid
New Member
So the perception of how well a person can do his/her job, based only on appearance, is more important than how well that same person can actually do their job?
If I'm hiring an accountant to help run my business I care more about his accounting skills than his dressing skills. I don't care if the guy/girl is naked 99% of the time if he can figure out a way to save me money.
Aren't we judging people by their looks, and not by their content when clothing is the deciding factor?
The only reason to judge a person on their clothing is if they are trying to sell you clothing.....right?
If I'm hiring an accountant to help run my business I care more about his accounting skills than his dressing skills. I don't care if the guy/girl is naked 99% of the time if he can figure out a way to save me money.
Aren't we judging people by their looks, and not by their content when clothing is the deciding factor?
The only reason to judge a person on their clothing is if they are trying to sell you clothing.....right?
Kookamoor
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Ah, but it takes time to realise a person's ability at a job. Once you realise they're a well dressed but useless accountant you would drop them. But someone who obviously puts time into their appearance would, I think, be more serious about their job and thus about their clients than the fella with a sloppy appearance.Motokid said:
People's appearance isn't just about physical characteristics. In fact, clothing is one thing we do have a choice about. We can't choose our face or body type. So by judging someone on 'appearance' you're talking about the 'whole package'. If you to choose between a well dressed woman of average appearance and a gorgeous woman in a too short skirt and boobs spilling over her halter top to be the secretary who greets your clients, which would you choose? Boys... think with your brains.
Kookamoor brings an issue to mind that I had not considered.
Let's address the issue of whether women need to wear make-up. The way I hear it, from men especially, is that while they don't like a woman that wears too much mak-up, they perceive a woman that wears some make-up as a woman that respects herself enough to care about her appearance.
So do those who think ones attire shouldn't be an issue also feel that there is absolutely no need, ever, for women to wear makeup.
Let's address the issue of whether women need to wear make-up. The way I hear it, from men especially, is that while they don't like a woman that wears too much mak-up, they perceive a woman that wears some make-up as a woman that respects herself enough to care about her appearance.
So do those who think ones attire shouldn't be an issue also feel that there is absolutely no need, ever, for women to wear makeup.
Kookamoor
New Member
Before the boys leap in, I'm going to add my two cents.
For me, wearing make up is about self confidence. We've all had those mornings where the skins a little inflamed and puffy about the eyes - I usually wear a little concealer just to make myself feel better. I get very frightened by those 16 year old girls who look like pandas because they're wearing far, far, far too much mascara. It's almost as frightening as those older women who paint on their eyebrows and try to conceal the passage of time through clown makeup. Yeek!
For me, wearing make up is about self confidence. We've all had those mornings where the skins a little inflamed and puffy about the eyes - I usually wear a little concealer just to make myself feel better. I get very frightened by those 16 year old girls who look like pandas because they're wearing far, far, far too much mascara. It's almost as frightening as those older women who paint on their eyebrows and try to conceal the passage of time through clown makeup. Yeek!
sirmyk
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Women, on occasion, can play "dress-up" and put on a little make-up for ballroom dances, ritzy parties, and other such formal situations, but in my mind, make-up is a waste of time otherwise, unless it is used sparingly enough that the make-up is not noticeable. I see some women wearing so much make-up (a quarter inch thick on rare occasions) that their faces sometimes crack around the edges, or they apply make-up over a small blemish, which makes the blemish more outlandish by causing one to think that the blemish is actually a skin-tone, natural bump on her face. Here are a few questions to consider: Why don’t men wear make-up? When things get intimate, who wants to caress a clown?
Motokid
New Member
If you move into a brand new area where you know not a single sole, then first impressions of the people you do business with are surely things to consider.
But word of mouth advertising and personal recommendations are worth far more than whether or not a guy wears a suit everyday verses not.
For me, the clothes a person wears takes a way back seat to the type of person they are, and what it is they can do for me.
Kinda like "don't judge a book by it's cover" in my opinion...
But word of mouth advertising and personal recommendations are worth far more than whether or not a guy wears a suit everyday verses not.
For me, the clothes a person wears takes a way back seat to the type of person they are, and what it is they can do for me.
Kinda like "don't judge a book by it's cover" in my opinion...
sirmyk
New Member
Cat: "This is not how I imaged sex. And that is not my happy place; that is my ass! Why is that rod thingy so cold?"Catalyst said:They have stopped vets from wearing the white jacket as clients appear to be scared of them as they look to clinical and not relaxed enough. Not sure what the animals think...
Ronny
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When I first started working in the mortgage industry it was still expected that loan officers dress very well, expensive shues, nice suits. When we started pressing the management to let us wear more business casual type clothes our clients seemed to feel a lot more relaxed as well and I think it helped production. We were a credit union and a lot of our clients come straight from the factory to our office and it put us all more at ease. Also if I do business with someone who is dressed too much better than I am, I start to feel they may swindle me.