Double Standard? & a question

[Motokid]

Please read this. Interesting contrast to the Gary Glitter thread I think.

Is there a double standard here? Suppose the teacher was a man and the student was a girl? Would house arrest sit ok with the public under those circumstances? She does have to live the rest of her life as a registered sex offender.

My other question is this:

Has anybody ever had a teacher that looked like this? Holy crap on a can....
Most of my teachers looked like a cross between Janet Reno and Margaret Thatcher. This lady is hot hot hot.....

 

[Zolipara]

I liked that her lawyer argued that she is "too pretty for jail". I think she got off easy because of her looks.

How many male sex offenders get their own "free insertnamehere" website like Debra did?

 

[abecedarian]

"Too Pretty for jail" huh? That's so stupid. She's just a much a predator as any male pedophile, and should be treated the same. If my son were her victim, I wouldn't be too happy with this judge.

 

[SFG75]

Please read this. Interesting contrast to the Gary Glitter thread I think.

Is there a double standard here? Suppose the teacher was a man and the student was a girl? Would house arrest sit ok with the public under those circumstances? She does have to live the rest of her life as a registered sex offender.

You must be a Glenn Beck radio fan-he was going off about this yesterday. Yes, there is a discrepancy in sentencing, and it has been proven. If this was a 40 yar old man, he would've been tossed into jail faster than you could shake a stick. But, because this teacher is hot, she's essentially getting away with it.

Schmokin!

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My other question is this:

Has anybody ever had a teacher that looked like this? Holy crap on a can....
Most of my teachers looked like a cross between Janet Reno and Margaret Thatcher. This lady is hot hot hot.....

I bet detention was just hell. Wow, how traumatic.

 

[G4G]

"Too Pretty for jail" huh? That's so stupid. She's just a much a predator as any male pedophile, and should be treated the same. If my son were her victim, I wouldn't be too happy with this judge.

Absolutely as guilty as males who do the same. Unbelievable double standard.

 

[cajunmama]

My other question is this:

Has anybody ever had a teacher that looked like this? Holy crap on a can....
Most of my teachers looked like a cross between Janet Reno and Margaret Thatcher. This lady is hot hot hot.....

I have a close friend who is a teacher and she is quite pretty. I have had several mutual male aquaintances remark to me that if they had a teacher that looked like her, they would have paid a lot more attention in school!!!


Absolute double standard, I can't believe the victim's mother was in favor of this.

 

[Libre]

I don't see what's so wrong with it. Jeez - if that were my teacher...
It's our up-tight society that gets all jittery about sex. You really think the student was harmed? It's not like he was raped - he was willing, as far as I can read into this. I think her sentence is too harsh. You know, a few generations ago, people were often married by the time they were 14. That's because they were often dead by the time they were 40.
I don't think she should get any punishment, based on what I read. If she had raped him, that's another story. I would have tremendously harsh punishment - up to even capital punishment - for cases of proven rape.
If the teacher were a male, by the way, then I might feel differently. I guess I'm all for the double standard!

 

[Motokid]

I may go out on a limb here and look like the complete ass (there's a thread for this if you want it) but isn't part of this the male world looking at this lady, and thinking that the kid in question was not so much a victem, but rather just one lucky son-of-a-gun?????

Do you really think he's traumatized by this, or has he become a cult hero to his friends? This woman did not hold a gun to his head. He knew exactly what was happening and I'm sure he invited it, and encouraged it. A willing participant.

Can any of you really sit there and think this young boy was taken advantage of? Do you really think he'll be emotionally and mentally damaged for years to come?

This is every boys fantasy come true is it not?

Had a man been the "rapist" this whole thing would be competely different for sure.

 

[G4G]

I just wanted to say that I think I would have been traumatised - as personally i think she's a bit of a munter.

 

[Motokid]

I just wanted to say that I think I would have been traumatised - as personally i think she's a bit of a munter.

You may have only been traumatized by the thought that you may have peaked at such an early age...

 

[G4G]

You may have only been traumatized by the thought that you may have peaked at such an early age...

LMFAO!!!

 

[Miss Shelf]

Men. Sigh.

When I was in high school there was a rumor going around about a rather handsome student and a youngish teacher, I never knew whether to believe it or not.

Yes, this teacher we're talking about may be terrific looking and the boy might be a lucky son of a gun, but the fact remains, the teacher is in a position of authority and has abused that position. I think it's disgusting and if I had a child in her class I would take my kid out of that school. Call me old fashioned but I believe that anyone who seduces a child (and even if a child is sexually active, he's still a child) is a sex offender and should be treated as such.

 

[cajunmama]

My biggest problem with this is not the sex part. She was his teacher. Even at the univesity level, where everyone is an adult, a professor can be terminated for having an affair with a student. Same goes with the military, and many corporations. Anyone who abuses such a position of authority needs to suffer some punishment.

 

[Motokid]

My biggest problem with this is not the sex part. She was his teacher. Even at the univesity level, where everyone is an adult, a professor can be terminated for having an affair with a student. Same goes with the military, and many corporations. Anyone who abuses such a position of authority needs to suffer some punishment.

Terminated yes, charged with a serious crime, and being imprisoned? Being labeled for life as a sexual preditor?

And what do you mean men?

The boys mother seems just fine with the outcome of this.

 

[cajunmama]

Terminated yes, charged with a serious crime, and being imprisoned? Being labeled for life as a sexual preditor?

And what do you mean men?

The boys mother seems just fine with the outcome of this.

I'm also curious to know if she violated a statutory rape law. The boy, yes, boy was 14 (wait, 13 maybe?) at the time of the incident!!!
And I, as a mother, sit here in disbelief at the mother's complacency with the outcome. I would have a s***fit, if this happened to one of my kids. I would probably be on trial for assault.

I think Miss Shelf's "men" remark is in reference to the current double standard of sexuality in our culture. A man who has many sexual partners is applauded as a "stud", whereas a woman who has many sexual partners is looked down on as a whore. Exceptions aside, am I right?

 

[Motokid]

I think Miss Shelf's "men" remark is in reference to the current double standard of sexuality in our culture. A man who has many sexual partners is applauded as a "stud", whereas a woman who has many sexual partners is looked down on as a whore. Exceptions aside, am I right?

Totally right.

Men accused of raping underage girls are thrown in prison, women accused of raping underage guys get house arrest.

 

[cajunmama]

Unfortunately, there are lots of double standards in this world.

 

[Motokid]

I'm also curious to know if she violated a statutory rape law.

Isn't that what all this is about. If he was of legal age I'm not sure she commited a crime.

 

[Libre]

A man who has many sexual partners is applauded as a "stud", whereas a woman who has many sexual partners is looked down on as a whore. Exceptions aside, am I right?

I don't think this is true. At least, not today. It may have been true 40 years ago. A lot has changed.

Men accused of raping underage girls are thrown in prison, women accused of raping underage guys get house arrest.

All cases should be reviewed individually - on a case-by-case basis, rather than applying one uniform standard for all cases. This practice COULD wind up giving the appearance of a double-standard, when in fact, some cases of rape - or any crime - warrant much harsher sentences than other cases.

Which is not to say that all sentences and punishments are fair and that there never IS a double standard.
(OJ, Scott Peterson, Robert Blake????)
But I wasn't on these juries. They may have reached correct verdicts.

 

[Miss Shelf]

I think there are two separate issues here: 1) sex with a minor and 2) abusing a position of authority. Let's assume for a moment that the teacher in question was male and the minor was female. The teacher would almost certainly have lost his job and be branded a sexual predator at the least. That is, if the girl didn't claim he forced her, in which case he would be tried for rape. Now, if the boy in this case said the teacher forced him to have sex, let's say threatening him with a failing grade if he didn't cooperate, is that any worse?

I think that any person working with children under the age of 18 should be held accountable for their actions, whether they are male or female and whether the child is male or female, and regardless of whether the child was a willing participant. I disagree that they should be tried on a case-by-case basis. There should be a single consequence, and the violator should have his or her license to teach stripped for life. An adult who finds a pubescent child an attractive sexual partner has a serious psychological problem.