Poem about Abhorsen

[Stewart]

My opinion that overall I thought it was fun and, with a few tweaks, could also be an interesting character study?

If I just said that the author has no idea what bits I'm referring to.

 

[Martin]

Be a little less specific, for all I care. But quoting every single sentence and completely taking it apart? Come on!

Would you have liked the poem better if he had put in a question mark at the appropriate position?

Really?

Cheers, Martin

 

[Stewart]

I see nothing wrong with it. A question mark is basic punctuation. If you are missing one then it might just be an error. Missing two and you need it brought to your attention.

 

[Martin]

Sure. But would you have liked it better? Would you have enjoyed the poem more?

Give him some general criticism. Say "You have to put a question mark at the end of a question" or something like that, but don't quote every grammatical mistake and point it out to him, one by one by one by one ...

We wont see him back, I'm sure.

Cheers, Martin

 

[phil_t]

To be fair, he hasnt been back on since he posted that ^, so thats not really Mile's fault (unless he kidnapped him of course, and has stranded him in Orkney or something )

Phil

 

[Martin]

It's not completely unimaginable that he read the reaction to his first post and thought to himself "Ah sod it, I'm outta here!". We'll never know, will we?

Cheers, Martin

 

[Stewart]

If (s)he's been as a guest and not signed in and said sod it then it's probably not a big interest to them. They were Last Active 2 mins after posting the poem. Wait until the weekend is over and we'll see if they come back.

 

[Martin]

I'm not blaming you, Mile, don't get me wrong.

It's just, I'm contemplating posting some stuff of my own, and I find it .. well, a bit scary. If I were to post something (especially as a newbie), and it would be criticised like that, I don't think I'd be back soon.

Just my personal opinion.

Cheers, Martin

 

[Wabbit]

I can't believe somebody posted a poem and then never checked back to see if somebody read it and liked it. They must have checked in as guest.

Mile-o. All I am saying is there is a WAY to do something. Take it easy on em Just coz you don't personally like something does not give you the right to totally rip the thing to bits. Say you don't like it. Give a few reasons why not. Encourage them a little.

Regards
SillyWabbit

 

[Stewart]

Just coz you don't personally like something does not give you the right to totally rip the thing to bits. Say you don't like it. Give a few reasons why not. Encourage them a little.

Now you are telling me to say I don't like something when I've already stated that I liked it.

 

[Ashlea]

As the moderator on this forum, I don't really want to have to set detailed guidelines on how to critique. In general, we're a polite crew. How bout I just say that, and I'll add this to the instruction thread, that if you want stringent critique you say so, and if you are posting just to share, you indicate that as well. I've sat through good critique and discouraging critique, and either way you have to develop some thick skin. Many posters have indicated that they want detailed criticism, but I don't think that's everyone's intention when posting.

I certainly want people to share openly and don't want to chase away any of the new guys, but if someone is searching for an honest critique, then they should get that. I think a lot of the critique I've seen has been valuable.

 

[RaVeN]

I'm not posting this to open wounds, I just have trouble with shutting up.

Mile-O, I don't think anyone here questions your intelligence but I question your common sense. Do you critique someone because you are trying to help them or because you have the ability to do so? I truely believe that you are trying to help that person become better at what they do, but doesn't common sense tell you that the person will feel belittled and you're defeating the very purpose that you've tried to achieve?

Wouldn't a better solution be to ask that person if they would like your advice or better yet, exchange PMs so that person hasn't felt publicly humiliated? Maybe an addition to the intoduction language of the Showcase would be a help as well??

Again, I know your intent isn't to hurt any one's feelings Mile-O... BUT that has been the end result. Sometimes I think you have all of these tools in your toolbox but pick out the wrong one to get the job done,... but then I enjoy improvised dance over ballet.

The pointy/typey finger on my right hand is sore now and needs it's little nap.

RaVeN
*shakes his head at Phil*

 

[Stewart]

Do you critique someone because you are trying to help them or because you have the ability to do so?

I critique because I want to help and sometimes have the time to do so.

I know your intent isn't to hurt any one's feelings Mile-O... BUT that has been the end result.

Who's feelings?

Sometimes I think you have all of these tools in your toolbox but pick out the wrong one to get the job done,... but then I enjoy improvised dance over ballet.

You were doing good with a serious post and ruined it by slipping off into humour again. Shame that!

 

[RaVeN]

I critique because I want to help and sometimes have the time to do so.



Who's feelings?



You were doing good with a serious post and ruined it by slipping off into humour again. Shame that!

"Who's feelings" is a good question but I don't have a black & white answer for you without taking a poll.

The true shame is that I didn't mean for those lines to be humorous but in your infinite wisdom you found a way to critique them I think that kinda proves my point.

RaVeN