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San Francisco rejects USS Iowa

"If I was going to commit any kind of money in recognition of war, then it should be toward peace, given what our war is in Iraq right now." that seems pretty cut-and-dried.
 
It's not about money, Bobby. It’s about an American City recognizing a ship and the sailors that manned it for their contributions to the protection or our freedoms?
 
bobbyburns said:
why do they need an object to remember that?
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The very fact that you asked the question shows that it's needed. Never forget the price that was paid, bobby.
 
because I asked why we can't remember what happened without spending three million dollars to remind us again why we're remembering in the first place, that's your "proof" for why it is needed? god, you're dense.
 
Robert said:
It’s about an American City recognizing a ship and the sailors that manned it for their contributions to the protection or our freedoms?
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Freedoms? Iraq? What are you talking about?
 
Stockton, California... that's about a one/two hour drive from where I live. $3 million just to tow it to San Fran? I would rather see $3 million donated to help feed starving children in durkadurkastan, or at least the ship recycled properly to make bunkers... or more weapons. Now, if it were towed to San Fran as a tourist attraction, where tourists pay ten bucks or more for walkthroughs, and all that money goes to a worthy cause... then I wouldn't mind. San Fran tourists in general are about 75% outta-towners from other countries, I would guess.
 
bobbyburns said:
because I asked why we can't remember what happened without spending three million dollars to remind us again why we're remembering in the first place, that's your "proof" for why it is needed? god, you're dense.
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Grow up, Bobby. What you said was "why do they need an object to remember that?" That's not a statement about money.
 
Kenny Shovel said:
A battleship being used as a floating museum in San Francisco bay I could imagine, but doing the same thing 80 miles upriver is just going to look out of place surely?
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Yes, very much our of place.
 
sirmyk said:
Stockton, California... that's about a one/two hour drive from where I live. $3 million just to tow it to San Fran? I would rather see $3 million donated to help feed starving children in durkadurkastan, or at least the ship recycled properly to make bunkers... or more weapons. Now, if it were towed to San Fran as a tourist attraction, where tourists pay ten bucks or more for walkthroughs, and all that money goes to a worthy cause... then I wouldn't mind. San Fran tourists in general are about 75% outta-towners from other countries, I would guess.
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It's too bad for SF. There are a lot of people that will want to visit the ship when it opens, and SF won't see a dime of it.
 
If that was my ship, do you know what I'd do? I'd turn it into a midnight-cruise-ship/love-boat that goes on light-speed tours of the intergalactic planetary system known as 'Quato 4' in the Oblong Nebula. That'd be sweet...

As for war, let us remember this:

'If war is the answer, then we're asking the wrong question'.

Wow.
 
the human capacity for memory = virtually free.

towing a subarmarine = $something retarded.

you still have not posted ***one*** reason why they have to have this object to recognize their freedom. game over. you can not step to my epistemic lyricism.
Robert said:
Grow up, Bobby. What you said was "why do they need an object to remember that?" That's not a statement about money.
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Robert said:
Retired USS Iowa headed inland after anti-war rejection

Anti-war protests or just plain pig headedness?
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I don't think it's pigheadedness, it's just being "against" things for the sake of being so. Whether or not you like or dislike the current war, you'd have to be out of touch with reality to argue that we should not honor those that served in WWII. It was ships like the Iowa and the men and women that served that prevented larger scale "Bataan death marches," "Rape(s) of Nanking," and other sickening events which were essentially killings for sport on the part of the Japanese Imperial army.
 
Robert said:
It's too bad for SF. There are a lot of people that will want to visit the ship when it opens, and SF won't see a dime of it.
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That's not necessarily true. You'd be surprised how few people are willing to pay for something like that. The city of Fall River has the Battleship Massachusetts docked there. It's an amazing museum that I've been to plenty of times. However, everytime I go there it is almost vacant. Lizzie Borden's ghost pulls in more tourism dollars.
 
bobbyburns said:
the human capacity for memory = virtually free.

towing a subarmarine = $something retarded.

you still have not posted ***one*** reason why they have to have this object to recognize their freedom. game over. you can not step to my epistemic lyricism.
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We should never forget the price that was paid for freedom, bobby. It's that simple.

Game over? Grow up, bobby.
 
mehastings said:
That's not necessarily true. You'd be surprised how few people are willing to pay for something like that. The city of Fall River has the Battleship Massachusetts docked there. It's an amazing museum that I've been to plenty of times. However, everytime I go there it is almost vacant. Lizzie Borden's ghost pulls in more tourism dollars.
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Any idea how many people visit each year?
 
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