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Martin said:
Yeah, and? I do that because I like the past better than the present moment. If you don't, then you don't have a problem, and I'm happy for you.


If you truly understand, why are you still complaining?
 
Can someone explain what exactly Martin has done wrong? As from my point of view he appears to have stated that the quality of discussion isn't as high as it once was. This initiated an interesting thread about problems with the board and possible solutions to them; however we now appear to have ended up with a lets have a go at Martin session.
 
Kenny Shovel said:
Can someone explain what exactly Martin has done wrong?

Nasty, unspeakable things. :D

Maybe he longs to be a moderator again for a record third time, and that's why it's not the same.
 
bobbyburns said:
the past is absent, martin. now is the only thing that's available to you.
Hey Martin, I'm very happy to see you back.

I have to say, however, that I agree with bobby here. I suppose we'll have to build our rapport with those of us who are new and who are still here.

My feeling is TBF is different, but I'm enjoying the difference I'm seeing here. I still post my posts, and read what interests me. My only regret is I've not been able to participate as much as I want to at present, and so have not got the chance to get to know the newer people.

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I applaud you effort, Martin, it’s not easy to get your arms around a problem with multiple roots. If the old TBF culture fostered more book discussions and respect between members, then I’m all for it. I believe courtesy and respect are cultural norms that can be maintained, even with the growth being experienced on this board.

Ronny said something about TBF not having many mods. How many mods are there and who are they? Is there a list somewhere? Has there been any thought about adding another mod or two to help with the growth?
 
Thanks for showing exactly what is wrong with TBF today, Stewart, I knew I could count on you.

RK - fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm just telling you mine. No need to blindly copy it.

Robert - Thanks. Mods are here.
 
Robert said:
Ronny said something about TBF not having many mods. How many mods are there and who are they? Is there a list somewhere?
There is a list of Forum Moderators
Has there been any thought about adding another mod or two to help with the growth?
As I posted in my reply to Ronny, this is something that is currently being looked into.
 
Robert said:
If the old TBF culture fostered more book discussions and respect between members, then I’m all for it.

Actually, the topics have got better. In the "olden days" it was The Two Martins Show - Martin and Wabbit - as they deluged the forum with silly links and games. That's how they managed to get post counts nearing 8,000 and 7,000 respectively. Very little of it was conversing around books.

I believe courtesy and respect are cultural norms that can be maintained, even with the growth being experienced on this board.

Certainly, but people also need to learn how to use a forum and the proper (n)etiquette expected when engaging within an online community. I may appear a grump (at times) and this is the reason: I spend more of my online time on technical forums where we don't mind being abrupt with people as ignorance is not tolerated. If you post a question without searching then you will be told to use the search - rather than repeat ourselves - and if you ask a simple question you will, no doubt, be told to RTFM or STFW.

Then comes those who can't string a sentence together. These people need to be taught that they are on a book discussion forum. You don't read books written in a bizarre mix of numbers and characters so we shouldn't have to expect them here. If you truly want to gain a little respect then drop the numbers and learn to use proper English. Also, one exclamation mark - to suffix an exclamation - is also aall that is necessary.

I've said it before about giving threads titles so I'll not mention it again but to create an orderly forum then it certainly bears thinking about.

Next up, discussion. If you want to talk about books then please discuss them. If you think Stephen King is great then please, by all means, show us what you mean. Give examples of why he gained your respect and don't argue back by calling someone elitist. Engage in the conversation and be civil. If you don't like someone then don't call them names: grow up! It's a book discussion forum and if the sum of your critical ability is to say a book "is great" or "it sucks" then anyone that bases their choices of reading material on that is an idiot. However, if you can say "it's great because" or "it sucks because" then someone can go away and make a more informed decision on their next read and from there on in it's caveat emptor.

How many mods are there and who are they?

Five, excluding Darren. Halo, Ice, Wabbit, Ell, and Ashlea.

Is there a list somewhere?

Under the Test Forum, the link says View Forum Moderators.
 
Stewart said:
Next up, a move towards informative thread titles. Not only does that increase the site's appearance in search engine results (bringing more people in)

Thus giving birth to more members who don't adhere to your dogma?

Stewart said:
Mods, if a thread title is cryptic, has bad spelling, or could be improved then don't be afraid to do it. Don't just moderate the forum, guide it to being a well-oiled machine rather than a lazy dump of banal expression.

This is an utterly ridiculous suggestion and I can only hope you are joking. Editing 'cryptic' thread titles!?!?! Please...
 
People (not you) have suggested that I'm trying to impose my views of the forum on it's members. I am not, I'm just expressing an opinion.
 
Ya Krunk'd Floo said:
This is an utterly ridiculous suggestion and I can only hope you are joking. Editing 'cryptic' thread titles!?!?! Please...

No, Ou Be Low Hoo. I'm not joking.
 
ruach said:
By comparing TBF today with it whenever your post said, you are holding onto an idea that is in the past. You expect this idea to have the same merit today as it did then. Things change, only your ideas of them don't. Let go of what you thought and see things today, for what they are today. Does that make sense?

I am inclined to recall Chaucer from Book 2 of Troilus and Criseyd:

"Ye knowe eek, that in forme of speche is chaunge
With-inne a thousand yeer, and wordes tho
That hadden prys, now wonder nyce and straunge
Us thinketh hem; and yet they spake hem so,
And spedde as wel in love as men now do;
Eek for to winne love in sondry ages,
In sondry londes, sondry been usages."

So, let's see...Language changes; accept it. Forums change; accept it.
 
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