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suddenly confused by a detail in Harry Potter,

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The other day, I have read a book, which talked about something like spirit, soul, that kind of thing. It said that everyone has a "higher self " in themselves. Let say, this higher self is kinda like spirit, or soul or ghost, something that can float from the body,and observe the body, even the minds or thoughts. Suppose this is true, then My confusion comes from the ghosts in Harry Potter, the first one. remember that Duke Nearlyheadless -(-is this his name) in the film?

Look, if that "higher self, or spirit, or whatever(-- i am not sure at all), can float from the physical body, then any harm, dismantle to the physical body could not leave any scare on that "higher self", or ghost, whatever. How come the Duke nearlyheadless in Harry Potter can lift his head to show Hermione what is nearlyheadless like? :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

hope i have made myself clear. ;)

What do you think? Any helpful explanation to me?? Thanks! :)
 
I suppose Joanne Rowling never heard of higher self. And doesn't believe in ghosts. So, if they are able to take their heads off, or not, what's the difference. Harry is a fun book, not a report on how not-material creatures look like.
 
Well, you can always deliberate on a form of ghosts' existence. But, as there is no proof if they exist, or not, you can't expect different authors will portray them in an analogous way. What's more, in Rowling's book ghosts have a role of, I would say, clowns. They are to make people laugh. That's why Rowling treats them like any other creature from a fairy tale: dwarf, elf, unicorn. Thhese very popular creatures have some constant similrities, which most writers leaves unchanged, as they are rooted in readers minds, but they can also differ significantly. If you want your elf to see in the night as good as in the daylight, you may have it. But I don't think it is obligatory to put it in an elf description.
 
I think my confusion is not related with J Rowling's imagination or whatever, it seems tobe related with the director. It is he who chooses to present a ghost in that way, which means in his mind, a ghost can be dismentled just like a human being, though no blood drippling. :rolleyes:

Anyway, itis funny.
 
Maybe ghosts are not limited to the same rules that we are. Maybe he can be anything he wants to be and so choose to remove his head. We cannot remove our heads since it would a) hurt a lot and we would go ARRRRRHHH MY HEAD! B) very messy ( nasty blood stains in the carpet! ) And C) we would drop dead lol :)

What I am saying is this :) I think that ghosts are made of thought and energy so it would not be difficult for them to alter parts of them. I'm not sure. Just thinking out loud here! :)

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
SillyWabbit said:
I think that ghosts are made of thought and energy so it would not be difficult for them to alter parts of them.
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I think that ghosts can't alter themselves from how they died, i.e. the bloody baron or as in sir nicholoas' case, he wants to be headless so he could join the halloween headless hunt activities, but a flab of skin and sinew held on! On the J.K Rowling Official Web Site, see that thread.... there is a song that she had written to be in the book about Sir Nicholas' death but, her editor didn't like it or something.... so I think ghosts can't alter themselves.

But I also believe in invisible real ghosts too. The idea that someones presence or soul can be here or come here sometimes.
 
Well, don't really know about the H. Potter book :)

Although, when im reading a book, I sometimes to try and place my own rationalizations onto it if my ideas make a lot more sense then the authors. It helps me suspend my disbelief.

Regards
SillyWabbit
 
Some people claim that ghosts are only ghosts because they have unfinished business. Otherwise they would have moved on to wherever it is they would otherwise have gone to after they'd died. So, if a person's unfinished business was to do with the fact that they died a violent and untimely death it is not unlikely that they would bear the evidence of this death in their physical manifestation.

Which is to say, if you had your head chopped off and felt a bit miffed about it, you could hang around as a ghost until you'd calmed down a bit. But, as having your head chopped off was the reason you were a ghost, your ghostly form would also have a detached head.
 
Litany said:
Some people claim that ghosts are only ghosts because they have unfinished business.
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Wasn't that Casper the friendly ghost?;)
 
Idun said:
Wasn't that Casper the friendly ghost?;)
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Haven't seen it. I don't actually buy into any of this ghost stuff, but if Caspar said it then it must be true.

In other ghost related news, just saw the latest trailer for Most Haunted in which Yvette tells the world that if the other people leave her by herself she'll poo her pants. If the Beeb has know about her shoddy toilet habits she never would have gotten that job on Blue Peter.
 
Litany said:
I don't actually buy into any of this ghost stuff, but if Caspar said it then it must be true.
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Of course it is! Casper, the friendliest and sweetest of all ghosts, would never, EVER lie to anyone.;)
 
Litany said:
Haven't seen it. I don't actually buy into any of this ghost stuff, but if Caspar said it then it must be true..
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;) not buy into??? :rolleyes:

Stubborn am I to believe there always something mysterious beyond the current knowledge and technique "MODERN" world. :cool:
 
I just got this idea when I tried to make relationship between different stuff which I got from the outside world. I guess most of us like to fancy when we are immersed in reading. Strange thoughts clash and come up when our minds are wandering. :)

Funny though. :rolleyes:
 
SillyWabbit said:
Strange thoughts are always good :D

Regards
SillyWabbit
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There is magical stuff there, right. :rolleyes:

so, how about the idea of all the wabbits mysteriously disappear. All of them! :p
 
SillyWabbit said:
That's not strange, it's just plain wrong!!! :p

Regards
SillyWabbit
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:D

Whatis wrong? they are bouncing, bouncing , bouncing, even bouncing on your table for carrots!!! :p heheheh
 
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