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the most erotic book

Thanks lenny nero, that's something check out.

I don't know how we can discuss erotica novels without violating one of the rules; something like, "no sexual orientation"...

If we talk about it, it will be like talking to my boyfriend's mother - being choosy with words and slightly uncomfortable. :p
 
Libra6Poe - I know. I think it's virtually impossible to talk about this one. That's why I've been so hesitant.
 
novella said:
I don't generally enjoy being told what every character is wearing in every scene, what color hair they have, how old they are, how the room is decorated, what the town looks like, what the mayor looks like, what he weighs, whether his wife is considered attractive by the postman . . . and dialogue that reads as though it was translated from by a machine that doesn't have a colloquial grasp of English.

I think Faulks doesn't believe in the use of metaphors or allusions or development of character through action and dialogue. He just keeps explaining everything to the reader.
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I don't find it so :) And I do normally find it really irritating when authors just "tell" you all the time. I like his prose. Also very impressed with the way he works with characters. The characterisation is really impressive and some of the best I have seen. The characters really live and breath for me. He can also write how women think. If I, as a man, can say that :D and lastly the book gives a little to thought food to chew on from time to time.
 
Libra6Poe said:
Well, I don't think you should dismiss any author because (s)he's a bestseller. It's like refusing to listen to some really great music just because it's mainstream.

Novella said, "when there's a whole world of other, better writing out there. Not personal." It just seems like if you insult the book, you're insulting the person who enjoyed the book.
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AMEN! I was thinking exactly the same thing. I especially like that last sentence. I've been trying to describe to my partner for ages why I don't like it when he insults my music taste, and that's *exactly* what I need to say to him. I know what novella's getting at, that it must be frustrating when people don't seem to go beyond what's highly publicised, but isn't that why we're all here? To receive some suggestions?

As regards your discussion for erotic fiction (Geenh and Libra6Poe), would it be possible for you to ask Darren if you can set up an 18+ thread for it? I mean, if one wants to post a writing sample of explicit content one is able to. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to discuss explicit content of a novel. It's a valid literary device. I think if you talk to the mods and ensure the thread is well moderated it would be really interesting to read. I haven't really read any 'erotic' fiction, but I'm very intrigued by what your discussion of this book would entail.

PS: Libra6Poe - whenever I've read your name I've always said it as 'Libra Poe 6'. I never even realised I was saying it wrong until I tried to type it here. Isn't that odd?
 
PS: Libra6Poe - whenever I've read your name I've always said it as 'Libra Poe 6'. I never even realised I was saying it wrong until I tried to type it here. Isn't that odd?
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Hee hee, quite odd indeed. :p

I think my first post on TBF was in this thread, how interesting. And since I was new, and this was my first experience in the book forum, I was quickly offended by Novella, but now I know better after reading her other posts.

To me, it seemed as though we should dismiss mainstream, bestselling authors. And I think that if one did that, one can miss out on something really great. (I think I wrote something similar in this other thread about how, "it's pointless to read more than one by an author")

Hmm... I did put up a thread for Anais Nin's Delta of Venus. I was really worried about it, so I typed what I could and had one of the mods check it out and see if it was appropriate. It's really difficult to discuss it freely though 'coz you're trying too hard to be careful. ::shrug:: It would be nice though if it could be discussed easily and without feeling as though you have to censor yourself. It's hard to keep in mind that your writing material may be viewed by 13-year-olds.
 
From Playboy-May 2005
$88,300 Paid at an auction for the only known copy of Sodom, or the Gentleman Instructed. The 17th century play is attributed to John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester, and was billed by auction house Sotheby's as the "rarest piece of early English pornography."
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Sodom, Or The Quintessence Of Debauchery by John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester

The most obscene play ever written. Rochester, a member of the court of Charles II of the England, had a rep as the most outre sexual deviant of his day. The drama gives us Sodom's king, Bolloxinion, his wife Cuntigratia, their children, generals, ministers and servants engaging in an impossibly wide series of activities, -OlympiaPress (?)
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There is some stuff in "Choke" by Palahniuk that can't get pretty hawt and bothered. :D I'd have to say "choke"
 
"hawt & bothered"

I had meant to read Choke but some of the reviews weren't that great so I just moved it down my to-read list.

I enjoy reading sex scenes in "non-erotic" books. They're fun and different.
In The Roquelaure Reader: A Companion to Anne Rice's Erotica Anne Rice said that she wanted every page to be hot so that you didn't have to mark the pages with the steamy scenes (and she certainly did a great job! ;))

I see you're reading Lolita next. Have you read it before? I read the Annotated Lolita (link ) I suppose most people would find it unneccessary, but I thought the book was helpful. It translated all the French and provided Edgar Allan Poe's Annabel Lee (my favorite poem). You should definitely read (or reread) that poem before reading the novel. ;)
 
Anne Rice & Katherine Ramsland quotes

From The Roquelaure Reader (by Katherine Ramsland):
1. Sex is the most important subject to write about
2. I am turned on by elegance
3. A slave needs love and suffering interspersed
4. through art and sex, one is liberated

"Lolita has had a huge influence on everything I've written," Rice admits. "I fell in love with Nabokov's language when I read Lolita and his memoir, Speak, Memory. His way of writing erotic scenes, so eloquently and elgantly, had a huge influence. I wanted the elegance of his books. I wanted the mood. I wanted his skill. I have reread Lolita several times in the past few years. I reread it before writing Belinda. I turn to it often, just to dip into the language. I also loved Nabokov's wit, and his compassion for most of his characters."
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Anne Rice on "The Story of O" by Pauline Reage

Rice's friend gave her a magazine with the first chapter of The Story of O...
Rice eventually read the whole book and thought that the story was simply too sinister. Sexual freedom, she felt, should not have to be
punished with death
. "There was something frightening about the way the book took itself seriously," she said. In reaction, she wrote an erotic story for entertaining her closest friends, called "The Sufferings of Charlotte."
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-Taken from Ramsland's The Roquelaure Reader
 
Libra6Poe said:
Did you ever get around to reading any erotica?
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Not yet..I just finished "The Life of Pi" and I looked at the library for "Lolita" since I've been reading so much about it all over TBF...having trouble finding a library copy....I'm searchin' tho'....
 
I once read the first book of "The Sleeping Beauty" trilogy, and found it incredibly hot. I'd searched for it at libraries since, unaware that it wasn't published under Rice's name. I've just ordered all three from the library.
I'm currently reading Lolita and finding it rather erotic as well, really enjoying it.
I liked Story of "O" but haven't actually read the book cover to cover. I need to do that someday.
 
Prairie Girl, I think we're going get along juuuust fine... ;)
I'm in the middle of Story of O... I'm having a hard time finishing it though... I think I keep comparing it to the Sleeping Beauty trilogy... :(
Glad you're enjoying Lolita, I also found it quite erotica as well. ;)

Here's another gread thread on TBF: click
 
Diana Gabaldon writes pretty good erotic scenes, as Jenn has already metioned, but I wouldn't really call her books erotic..
 
I actually own The Story of O on DVD. I've got to remember to read the book. Damn.

And for those who liked the Sleeping Beauty Trilogy, I recommend Rice's Belinda and Exit to Eden.
 
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