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That was definitely pre-Twiggy days but I bet there were a whole bunch of men walking around NYC this morning with new smiles on their faces!StillILearn said:I've been trying to wait for an appropriate time to post this photo, but patience is just not one of my virtues! (I was waiting for you to put back one of your cat avatars, but now will just have to do.)
AG was/is one of my favorites. I didn't see too many of her movies, but I remember The Barefoot Contessa with Bogie. In fact, I think that may have been his last film.StillILearn said:There we go!
LOL! I won't get on the other side of that bet for sure! She was gorgeous.Peder said:That was definitely pre-Twiggy days but I bet there were a whole bunch of men walking around NYC this morning with new smiles on their faces!
Peder
Mostly rereading! Heh, heh.........in literature he sought not the general sense, but the unexpected, sunlit clearings, where you can stretch until your joints crunch, and remain entranced. He read a very great deal, but it was mostly rereading; and he did have occasional accidents in the course of literary conversation. For example, he once confused Plutarch with Petrarch, and once called Calderon a Scottish poet.
Many people could not understand why he had not remained there. Moon's reply to questions of that kind would invariably be: "Ask Robertson" (the orientalist) "why he did not stay in Babylon." The perfectly reasonable objection would be raised that Babylon no longer existed. Moon would nod with a sly, silent smile. He saw in the Bolshevist insurrection a certain clear-cut finality. While he willingly allowed that, by-and-by, after the primitive phases, some civilization might develop in the "Soviet Union," he nevertheless maintained that Russia was concluded and unrepeatable.............
hmmmmm.....She was twenty-five, her name was Alla, and she wrote poetry: three things, one would think, that were bound to make a woman fascinating.
Probably the answer would be that she was poetry, and didn't need to write same.Peder said:Pontalba, SIL,
Ya think Ava wrote poetry?
It didn't say.
Peder
Oh Pontalba!pontalba said:Probably the answer would be that she was poetry, and didn't need to write same.
Persistent males. A Grand Duc! And then Rasputin himself!!Married at eighteen, she remained faithful to her husband for more than two years, but the world all around was saturated with the rubineous fumes of sin; clean shaven persistent males would schedule their suicides at seven Thursday evening, midnight Christmas Eve, or three in the morning under her window; the dates got jumbled and it was hard to keep all those assignations. A Grand Duc languished because of her. Rasputin pestered her for a month with telephone calls.
In her memoirs ... Ava Gardner drew an extraordinarily positive biographical sketch of her admirer Robert [Graves], who dedicated some of his poems to her, which naturally filled the actress with enormous pride. One of these poems from 1964, the title of which is No way to sleep, describes the happily excited state which the presence of the beautiful Ava provoked in her host during her stays in Deià. "And I have to admit that I also loved him, although he was already more than sixty when I knew him. Being together with him, his marvelous wife Beryl and their children in his home on top of the mountains of Majorca, caused me such unbelievable pleasure and satisfaction that nothing in my life could be compared to it"."
What fired him as a rule was the remote, the hidden, the vague -- anything suffciently indistinct to make his fantasy work at supplying the detail -- whether a portrait of Lady Hamilton or a popeyed schoolmate's whisperings about "houses of ill repute." Now the mist had thinned. Visibility had improved.
Hah! You and me both! Wretched girl. Although finally she does show somewhat that she has feelings for Martin. But.......oh better wait 'till you finish.StillILearn said:Still, reading Glory. Martin has just gone to Berlin in search of his Sonia. I'm finding it hard to see what is so endearing about her.
So IOW, he only required a "form" and supplied them with the attributes he desired, not what they really were...well that certainly explains why he "loved" Sonia.What fired him as a rule was the remote, the hidden, the vague -- anything suffciently indistinct to make his fantasy work at supplying the detail -- whether a portrait of Lady Hamilton or a popeyed schoolmate's whisperings about "houses of ill repute." Now the mist had thinned. Visibility had improved.
pontalba said:And btw SIL what I have read of Robert Graves, I love, what an interesting guy.
SIL, Pontalba,StillILearn said:Still, reading Glory. Martin has just gone to Berlin in search of his Sonia. I'm finding it hard to see what is so endearing about her.
I think he was pulling our leg.And llittle Sonia....should be acclaimed....as being the most oddly attractive of all my young girls
That about sums it up. I wonder if he'd have wanted her if he had caught her. I suspect not. But then I tend to cynical in this area.Peder said:SIL, Pontalba,
Never possessed. Always sought?
Peder said:Um, I don't know quite how to phrase this, but
Is anyone out there still reading?Or are we three it?
Breaca?
Steffee?
Any?
Peder