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Westerns

And let us not forget .......Lonesome Dove.... one of the great ones. Robert Duvall is a very good actor.
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How could I forget that one!:eek: I love that one! One of my fave westerns and probably the best mini series I've ever seen. Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones are just great in it.
 
Personal favorites

Tombstone-You've got to love Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday--"I'm your huckleberry":cool:

The Shootist-The last film of the late, great John Wayne. Don't know why, but I just really like this one.

Hang 'em High-Awesome Clint Eastwood,his best IMHO.:cool:
 
Fistful of Dollars
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
High Plains Drifter
The Wild Bunch
Straw Dogs
Little Big Man
Blazing Saddles
For a Few Dollars More

Also, I read that Darren Aranofsky's new film is an adaptation of the Lone Wolf and Cub films set in the Old-West. I hope it's good, because good Westerns are hard to come by these days.
 
pistolero said:
Fistful of Dollars
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
High Plains Drifter
The Wild Bunch
Straw Dogs
Little Big Man
Blazing Saddles
For a Few Dollars More

Also, I read that Darren Aranofsky's new film is an adaptation of the Lone Wolf and Cub films set in the Old-West. I hope it's good, because good Westerns are hard to come by these days.
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I don't think Straw Dogs is a Western, what made you list it?
 
muggle said:
And let us not forget .......Lonesome Dove.... one of the great ones. Robert Duvall is a very good actor.
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That has to be the best one ever made! (no offense to John Wayne) :)
 
muggle said:
The Magnificent Seven was also a good movie. Great stars in it including Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, Yul Brynner, and Eli Wallach.
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:D :D Classic of the Classics!!

also Wyatt Earp and another one that I can't remember the name, maybe someone here does. Keifer Sutherland and young Carradine were in it. Long Riders??
 
muggle said:
What am I missing here. Straw Dogs is about as much a Western as "The Wizard Of Oz".
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And that's where we differ. By your logic, movies/TV shows like The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (I'm just using it as an example because it had orbs) can't be considered "Westerns" because they've combined forces with 20th century pop culture to produce circumstances which weren't present in the Old West. That's like saying Kill Bill isn't a samurai film because it's set in post-feudal Japan. Heaven forbid!

The point: Westerns are not Westerns because of when they take place, Westerns are Westerns because of what they are. Peckinpah understood why the essence is appealing, and effectively reproduced it in Straw Dogs.
 
Sorry, but that doesn't quite answer the question. Just because a story is about a couple defending their home and property, and (trying to) defending the woman from being raped, doesn't make it a Western.

I'll concede that shows like Brisco County Jr. can't be 100% Westerns, but they're a dang sight more Western than Straw Dogs.
 
My favourite westerns are 'For a Few Dollars More' (Per qualche dollaro in più) and 'A Fistful of Dollars' (Per un pugno di dollari). I liked it more than Yojimbo.

'Pale Rider' is one of the most beautiful westerns that I've seen with it's strong contrast that the natural lights creates but the clichés in it are taken to extremes.

If we're going to be international about it then my favourite would be 'Seven Samurai'.
 
pistolero said:
And that's where we differ. By your logic, movies/TV shows like The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (I'm just using it as an example because it had orbs) can't be considered "Westerns" because they've combined forces with 20th century pop culture to produce circumstances which weren't present in the Old West. That's like saying Kill Bill isn't a samurai film because it's set in post-feudal Japan. Heaven forbid!

The point: Westerns are not Westerns because of when they take place, Westerns are Westerns because of what they are. Peckinpah understood why the essence is appealing, and effectively reproduced it in Straw Dogs.
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Actually, I have no problem if "you" think Straw Dogs is a Western. It, however, is classified by the film industry as being in the Mystery and Suspense category.
 
pistolero said:
I'm not even sure you understood what I posted.
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I think I do: The point: Westerns are not Westerns because of when they take place, Westerns are Westerns because of what they are.

I have a problem with that classification: to me, and probably a lot of other people, "Westerns" take place in the Old West, before there were telephones and automobiles, and are usually about old-fashioned frontier justice. If you want to stretch the classification to fit a broader interpretation of the genre, that's up to you.
 
"Muggle" thinks it knows who categorizes a film. If "Muggle" was aware that Peckinpah was part of the film industry (as every filmmakers is), and was aware that he also categorized Straw Dogs as a Western, it would retract its statements now.

Miss Shelf said:
I think I do: The point: Westerns are not Westerns because of when they take place, Westerns are Westerns because of what they are.

I have a problem with that classification: to me, and probably a lot of other people, "Westerns" take place in the Old West, before there were telephones and automobiles, and are usually about old-fashioned frontier justice. If you want to stretch the classification to fit a broader interpretation of the genre, that's up to you
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I've already answered this argument. I'll cross-apply: to be consistent with your theory, you'd have to criticize Kill Bill for being called a samurai film, since the samurai were abolished in the 19th century, "before there were telephones and automobiles." I saw several phones and cars in the movie, so clearly we're wrong to refer to it as a samurai film. Seriously, why do you have a classification fetish? Damn, just let film be what it is... It's something you live you know, not just something you watch. That you can categorize movies by some standard that is so media-tized that it doesn't really even exist takes away from the artist's intentions. I am sorry Straw Dogs doesn't fall into your "Western" compartment.
 
Ok, back on topic of Westerns. What are your favorite Western TV shows from years past. Gunsmoke and Bonanza are at the top of the popularity list due to their longevity. Some of my favorites were Rawhide, Have Gun Will Travel, Maverick, and ...oh yeah...all the others. :)
 
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