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Another, is it time to legalize thread...

no plans for immigration thread

no plans for book on social topics (I'm all about the kids remember)

global warming is just a myth being perpetrated by a select small group of environmental geeks isn't it? (maybe a new thread on that one)....


...and I believe there's plenty of crimes being commited to keep everybody busy in law enforcement without needing prostitution to help keep public officials busy...
 
RitalinKid said:
Even with brothels, walkers would almost certainly still be around.
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Of course they would. What about all those underage walkers that lie about their age and give a false name when they are arrested? All those kids that are on the street because of drugs or because they ran away from home. Legalisation would not help them.

It would not help all those foreign women who leave their countries with the promise of a job and are imprisoned in illegal brothels.

Other 'legal' brothels already exist in many countries, although they go by other names: massage parlours, escort services, etc. They are not officially legal but the police does not usually bother them.

I think the only impact of legalisation would be health controls and taxes, but walkers and illegal brothels would still exist.
 
Nothing will help the teenage run-away drug addict, or the poor ignorant foreigner who are the worlds easiest prey for scum-sucking jerk-offs that perpetrate some of mankinds worst offenses. Just like nothing will stop the elderly from being victims of crime becuase of their age and weakness, and the fact that a lot are easily confused into giving away their money on scams.

But, getting back to prostitution, if you can take away a major portion of what makes the trade so lucrative for so many of the evil bastards they prey on hookers (pimps), then maybe that could make a huge difference in many many lives. If 75% of the working hookers actually benefit from making the trade legal, and 25% don't see a difference because they are at the very bottom end of the social ladder, then isn't it worth it to make it legal? Might not the 75% help bring the 25% up in status and therefore make things better for all involved?

As things stand now, at least in most of America except Nevada, the system seems to be in need of repair. And so far, I don't hear many people in this forum making the arguement that it should remain illegal.
 
Well someone from The Netherlands should comment on how the system works in their country. Do you have a problem with trafficking?

The worst side of prostitution is in my opinion the trafficking. At least in europe there is a pretty big problem with eastern european mafia more or less kidnapping young girls in eastern europe and forcing them into prostitution in western europe.

If you havent already seen it you should see the movie Lilja 4-ever. A very realistic movie about a young russian girl forced into prostitution in sweden. Its very dark, you cant see it and stay untouched.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0300140/
 
Motokid said:
Have I ever solicited the services prostitute? No.

Sorry if that somehow ruins your image of me. I love money too much to throw it away on something like that. 25 to 100 bucks for just a minute and a half of ...oops...back to my orignially scheduled thoughts....

= I prefer not to answer the question myself. But in Russia for $100 one gets much more than several minutes. And some girls which are doing it here are... Whell... Some of them could easily win some beauty contests... =

My 15th wedding anniversery is this June, I will have lived with my wife for 17 years in September, and will have been monogamous with her for 19 years in June. Have I ever paid for sex....you make the call... :D

= The figures are very much like mine, but slightly bigger, yes. =


And as for the police making money off busting prostitutes I doubt that's the reason it's illegal. There's plenty of things the police can do to make more money than busting prostitutes. Speeding and parking tickets comes to mind right off the bat.

= Ha. Of course there are many things for the police etc. to get money off. But why one has deliberately to shut one of them? We, Russians, say: the wise bird eats small kernels and is very well off... =

It is most certainly a moral issue more than monetary. Which to me, is not a valid reason for keeping it illegal.
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= For different people it could be a very different issue. And... it really is. =
 
Freya said:
And I would argue that you are sadly mistaken! The films/documentaries etc are all being presented to you by the media in a certain way, and as such you can't generalise to the whole industry. Perhaps this is a difference between nations, but a quick trip down to any town's red light district round here will prove to me that the bulk of women are not in this on some get-rich-quick scheme. They're doing it because they have no other choice. No other means of being able to feed and clothe themselves.
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= I am sure some of them are really desperate. But to hear stories about how they are doing this to get their husbands out of jails, children fed and old mothers having a necessary operations... - is not necessary to believe the stories are true. Some of our prostitutes tell such stories after they are paid in advance for their services just to get free from the new customer as fast as possible, in order to return to the street and have another chance at getting another one - and additional $100 for the same night... (As it is really difficult to make sex to a girl whose beloved husband is in jail, small twin daughters are waiting at home to be fed, and an old mother expects an operation on rectal cancer... You certainly feel yourself an ogre not to bid her immediate farewell and give her a present of $300 - $500 for the rectal cancer).
 
RitalinKid said:
I don't think anybody has said that the state makes money off prostitution. Sorry if I missed it, but the issue I was referring to is that the state may no longer need as many people in the criminal processing and holding system if certain activities were legalized because fewer people would be committing crimes. I'm sure there's an argument with some validity for new crimes coming in to replace the old ones.

Edit: BTW, Motokid, have you started a thread on illegal immigration? Are there plans for it? Also, are there any plans to compile your threads on social topics into a book? ;) Is it also true your threads can stop global warming? :D
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= I do not think any STATE makes money off prostitution. But the STATE consists of people, and some of them MAKE money in such a way. At least it is so where I live. Police surely makes, and I think that some legislators have their share for "covering". =
 
Why should the state have to pay a prostitute for this man!
Ok hes ill but he proberbly gets disability payments to live off!
he carnt be that bad if hes having sex with prostitutes!
 
ruby said:
Why should the state have to pay a prostitute for this man!
Ok hes ill but he proberbly gets disability payments to live off!
he carnt be that bad if hes having sex with prostitutes!
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Most men pretty much have to be knocking on deaths door before we stop thinking about "getting some"...

sex can be very theraputic.... :D
 
Psh that's just silly.

If people have a right to have sex, then I suggest the State starts up a system to make sure everyone above 18 has the option of having sex at least once a month... yada yada. Having sex is not a right, it's a privilege, if he wants to learn to dance is he gonna hire someone to learn to dance in his place?

Makes me ashamed of being a Dane.
 
I think you guys are missing the point. It's about the law that's been established and what it should cover:

In Denmark, local authorities compensate disabled people for extra costs incurred because of their disability.
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If they cover the cost other luxuries being brought to this fellow's door (for example charges for delivering books from the library, or having a hairdresser come to his home), then why should this be any different? It's a legal luxury. They need to examine the law itself rather than berate this fellow for trying to squeeze through a loophole that's been left gaping wide open.
 
Prostitution, both on the street and in brothels, was made legal here about a year or two ago. I don't really have any problem with the brothels - I mean they can do what they want with their body - but I do think that they should have made on the street illegal, purely for the safety of the prostitutes. I think that it would be much better for them to be selling their services in a safe place, such as a brothel or massage parlour, instead of on some dingy street corner.
 
The statutes prohibiting prostitution make no sense.
In fact, I don't believe it is possible that prostution can be illegal. It's a form of persecution by the courts and the religious establishment, to prevent people from engaging in a harmless activity. Yes, there could be some danger involved - so, then let's all never leave our homes because we could get hurt out there.

It’s perfectly legal for adults to enter into an agreement. It’s perfectly legal for adults to have consensual sex with each other. How can the combination of the two be illegal?
I can treat a woman to a dinner, take her to a hotel, sleep with her, and give her some money for a taxi. No crime, nothing to prosecute. Yet, if the woman askes me up front if I want to have sex, and then tells me what this is going to run me ahead of time, we can both be arrested.
Ridiculous.
I don’t think laws should stop people from doing what they want to do, as long as nobody is getting hurt in any way.
 
Without any legal control the health risks associated with prostitution are very high. Legalisation may ease some people’s consciences but the health risks would remain.

Yes each brothel could have medical staff and all clients could be checked but how practical would that be? How many tests are required to identify all STDs that a person might have and how long does it take to get the results of these tests?

Scenario, “Good evening sir, you’d like to avail yourself to one of our ladies? Of course sir, we’ll need to fill in some forms and take a few swabs first, That’s right sir with the cotton bud, yes just on the end, good, now do take a seat over there please, your results should be back within four hours. What was that sir? You’re in a bit of a hurry? Well I’m afraid it is a legal requirement, now if you’d just like to take a seat there are some magazines on the rack and if you need it the toilet is just down the corridor. Thank you sir”

Another thought, if prostitution was legalised, then to obtain the services of a prostitute would involve entering into some form of legally binding agreement.
So what happens when disaster strikes and you fail to deliver or worse delver too soon? Do you put yourself at risk from being sued for breach of contract?? :D
 
Just for the record, and as a late entry, prostitution is legal in the UK - for the reasons Libre suggests: if sex is legal then it's ridiculous (and unworkable) for it to be illegal to buy or sell it. However, what is illegal is soliciting business (eg streetwalking) and running a brothel.
 
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