Boston Marathon attack

[Conscious Bob]

My "anything", in actuality referred to someone with intent to harm/maim/kill/mutilate people, as in with explosives, or some sort of weaponry. I believe that was pretty obvious and didn't realize I needed to spell out the exact parameter.

Intent is separate from weaponry and a WMD by definition has had an exact parameter since 1946.

 

[pontalba]

Intent is separate from weaponry and a WMD by definition has had an exact parameter since 1946.

Ahh, after the bombs dropped...right.
Technically, I know that is correct, but the emotional aspect should, it seems to me, come into the mix. For a plethora of reasons.

Plus, allow me to AIE...the world has grown and changed radically since 1946, perhaps the parameters should be enlarged, made a bit more up to date.

 

[Conscious Bob]

Ahh, after the bombs dropped...right.
Technically, I know that is correct, but the emotional aspect should, it seems to me, come into the mix. For a plethora of reasons.

Plus, allow me to AIE...the world has grown and changed radically since 1946, perhaps the parameters should be enlarged, made a bit more up to date.

No... WMD has an actual legal definition, it comes from the very first United Nations General Assembly held in January 1946. The first resolution is a commitment to the elimination of nuclear weapons and other weapons adaptable to mass destruction from national arsenals.

The emotional aspect only apply to those that use weapons not the weapons themselves, otherwise the whole of humanity becomes WMD. A truism certainly but fundamentally useless.

 

[sparkchaser]

Speaking of emotional aspects, what are the Conservative Talking Heads saying about this? I can see them having a bit of a crisis over this: on one hand a WMD charge sets the path for a Federal Death Penalty which they would want (because death penalty) and normally would be screaming for but on the other hand this is coming from That Guy's Administration which automatically makes it a Bad Idea.

 

[SFG75]

The psychology of Uncle Ruslan.

 

[Peder]

The emotional aspect only apply to those that use weapons not the weapons themselves, otherwise the whole of humanity becomes WMD. A truism certainly but fundamentally useless.

I'm not quite sure about the deduction (yours?) about the whole of humanity becoming a WMD. Nor that any idea is "fundamentally useless." Progress in understanding, and maybe progress generally, comes from ideas that begin outside the box, especially in view of the looseness in the wording about "other weapons adaptable to mass destruction" in your post Plus I would not be so dismissive as to describe discussions of intent as "emotional." To my ear that sounds a little archaic in this day and age.

 

[sparkchaser]

Is this the part where we can start chanting guns don't kill people, people kill people?

 

[Peder]

Is this the part where we can start chanting guns don't kill people, people kill people?

Depends on whether you want to put guns in jail, or put people in jail.
A well-turned slogan will always subvert reason.

 

[sparkchaser]

Depends on whether you want to put guns in jail, or put people in jail.
A well-turned slogan will always subvert reason.

 

[Peder]

ROTFL. I musta done sump'n right. Great pic!

 

[Bluenote]

Well I am open to input. Instead of making a response based upon emotion why not make a logical point?

If I walk into a building and dispense 127 rounds of 5.56 ammunition into innocent human bodies resulting in 24 deaths and 19 casualties have I wielded a WMD?

Or am I just pontificating?

Uh huh , you post a " response based on opinion" and then when I cite incidents that are *fact* accuse me of doing the same. That's rich.

Lemme ask you a question , have you ever at any time had to deal with i.e.d.s? And don't bother attempting to sidetrack into small arms , you're destined to ose that one very badly , very , very badly.

A couple of folks here have already read between the lines as regards my relevant experience , you really don't want to get into an extended discussion of the Newtown incident and the specific *facts* as regards the small arms utilised in said incident with *me*.

Lets just cut to the chase on that one , part of my current employment is as an armorer , quite a portion of the work I do in that regard is tuning and efficiency work on the platform that you're waxing hyperbolic about within the above , that for certain agencies. If you wish to discuss this in an equitable manner we can do so but please do me the common courtesy of not handing me hyperbolic rhetoric and sensationalistic semantics..........from EITHER side be it the Lefty Libtard or the RumpSprung Right. If ya just gotta indulge yourself with such tactics there will be no discussion and I'll just pass up your posts.

A. The Boston incident could have been much , much worse , the clowns involved were *amateurs*.

B. You are utilising the BuzzPhrase " WMD" as a distractive component of arguement , simplistically speaking *anything* with the potential to create a large number of casualties and in doing so destroy and damage a large amount of property can be construed to be a " WMD" , the concept that it " must be wielded by a state entity" runs completely counter to *ALL* law enforcement and military definitions.

C. If you think that the Murragh Building bombing ( for a singular example) wasn't " mass destruction" , well the least I can say as regards that *opinion* is that you quite simply are less than aware of whereof you speak.

Was that a " state entity'?

 

[Bluenote]

No... WMD has an actual legal definition, it comes from the very first United Nations General Assembly held in January 1946. T

The U.N.? Wow look Bob , I like your posts , I always have , since of course they are in general the voice of logic and reason.

However the above which you cite has been out of date for quite some time and is generally sneered at within military circles.

*PRACTICAL* result is what counts , nothing more , nothing less. In this case the results were less than optimal from the bomber's standpoint due to their own ineptitude , thankfully.

Again it could have been much , much worse. And frankly a ridiculous bickering session over mere definition of what a " wmd" is or isn't is relatively speaking ......ridiculous.

And bringing BushLeague and his well known falsehoods as regards his reasons for dragging us into the Iraq theater ( again) , not that you do so by the way , is a sidestep of epic proportions that fails to address the very real problem of how to prevent this from happening again , along with what may transpire when "they" send actual pros who know what they're doing to perpetrate another such act upon the American public.

 

[Peder]

Finally found the official charges (and the Miranda warning), for general information here:

​

"You have been charged with (1): Use of a weapon of mass destruction, in violation of 18 United States Code, Section 2332 a (a); and malicious destruction of property resulting in death, in violation of 18 United States Code, Section 844(i). . . . The maximum penalty on each count is death, or imprisonment for any term of years, or life. . . . [and] a fine of up to $250,000 . . . "​

NYT April 22, 2013, Boston Bombing Suspect's Bedside Hearing ​

Which to this amateur eye suggests (1) that the question of whether they were WMDs, or not, may not be crucial to a conviction, and (2) the question of intent is relevant ( whether 'malicious' or not), on the second charge. But no matter; we'll see how the trial goes.

Now back to regular programming.

 

[Conscious Bob]

I'm not quite sure about the deduction (yours?) about the whole of humanity becoming a WMD. Nor that any idea is "fundamentally useless." Progress in understanding, and maybe progress generally, comes from ideas that begin outside the box, especially in view of the looseness in the wording about "other weapons adaptable to mass destruction" in your post Plus I would not be so dismissive as to describe discussions of intent as "emotional." To my ear that sounds a little archaic in this day and age.

I wouldn't use 'emotional aspects' myself, I was replying to your post in which you use the definition.

 

[Conscious Bob]

The U.N.? Wow look Bob , I like your posts , I always have , since of course they are in general the voice of logic and reason.

However the above which you cite has been out of date for quite some time and is generally sneered at within military circles.

It may be out of date but there hasn't been 'to date' one single WMD used in an actual military operation that matches the Hiroshima Bomb. I don't think the US military have tampered with the definition that much, they'll leave that for US Civil Defence.

*PRACTICAL* result is what counts , nothing more , nothing less. In this case the results were less than optimal from the bomber's standpoint due to their own ineptitude , thankfully.

Again it could have been much , much worse. And frankly a ridiculous bickering session over mere definition of what a " wmd" is or isn't is relatively speaking ......ridiculous.

A terror weapon doesn't need to be WMD to be effective or even all that good, it's the fear that does the damage long term.

And bringing BushLeague and his well known falsehoods as regards his reasons for dragging us into the Iraq theater ( again) , not that you do so by the way , is a sidestep of epic proportions that fails to address the very real problem of how to prevent this from happening again , along with what may transpire when "they" send actual pros who know what they're doing to perpetrate another such act upon the American public.

Then you'll need to put up with the state becoming more intrusive.

 

[Conscious Bob]

Whups sorry, not Peder, pontalba.

 

[sparkchaser]

18 United States Code, Section 2332 a....

-CITE-
18 USC Sec. 2332a 01/03/2012 (112-90)

-EXPCITE-
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 113B - TERRORISM

-HEAD-
Sec. 2332a. Use of weapons of mass destruction

-STATUTE-
(a) Offense Against a National of the United States or Within the
United States. - A person who, without lawful authority, uses,
threatens, or attempts or conspires to use, a weapon of mass
destruction -
(1) against a national of the United States while such national
is outside of the United States;
(2) against any person or property within the United States,
and
(A) the mail or any facility of interstate or foreign
commerce is used in furtherance of the offense;
(B) such property is used in interstate or foreign commerce
or in an activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce;
(C) any perpetrator travels in or causes another to travel in
interstate or foreign commerce in furtherance of the offense;
or
(D) the offense, or the results of the offense, affect
interstate or foreign commerce, or, in the case of a threat,
attempt, or conspiracy, would have affected interstate or
foreign commerce;

(3) against any property that is owned, leased or used by the
United States or by any department or agency of the United
States, whether the property is within or outside of the United
States; or
(4) against any property within the United States that is
owned, leased, or used by a foreign government,

shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, and if death
results, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of
years or for life.
(b) Offense by National of the United States Outside of the
United States. - Any national of the United States who, without
lawful authority, uses, or threatens, attempts, or conspires to
use, a weapon of mass destruction outside of the United States
shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, and if death
results, shall be punished by death, or by imprisonment for any
term of years or for life.
(c) Definitions. - For purposes of this section -
(1) the term "national of the United States" has the meaning
given in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality
Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(22));
(2) the term "weapon of mass destruction" means -
(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this
title;
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or
serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or
impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector
(as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or
radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life; and

(3) the term "property" includes all real and personal
property.

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 103-322, title VI, Sec. 60023(a), Sept. 13, 1994,
108 Stat. 1980; amended Pub. L. 104-132, title V, Sec. 511(c),
title VII, Sec. 725, Apr. 24, 1996, 110 Stat. 1284, 1300; Pub. L.
104-294, title VI, Sec. 605(m), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3510; Pub.
L. 105-277, div. I, title II, Sec. 201(b)(1), Oct. 21, 1998, 112
Stat. 2681-871; Pub. L. 107-188, title II, Sec. 231(d), June 12,
2002, 116 Stat. 661; Pub. L. 108-458, title VI, Sec. 6802(a), (b),
Dec. 17, 2004, 118 Stat. 3766, 3767.)


-MISC1-
AMENDMENTS
2004 - Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(b)(1), struck out "certain"
before "weapons" in section catchline.
Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(b)(2), struck out "(other
than a chemical weapon as that term is defined in section 229F)"
after "mass destruction" in introductory provisions.
Subsec. (a)(2). Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(a)(1), amended par.
(2) generally. Prior to amendment, par. (2) read as follows:
"against any person within the United States, and the results of
such use affect interstate or foreign commerce or, in the case of a
threat, attempt, or conspiracy, would have affected interstate or
foreign commerce; or".
Subsec. (a)(4). Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(a)(2), (3), added par.
(4).
Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(b)(3), struck out "(other
than a chemical weapon (as that term is defined in section 229F))"
after "mass destruction".
Subsec. (c)(3). Pub. L. 108-458, Sec. 6802(a)(4)-(6), added par.
(3).
2002 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 107-188, Sec. 231(d)(1), substituted
"section 229F) - " for "section 229F), including any biological
agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178)
- " in introductory provisions.
Subsec. (c)(2)(C). Pub. L. 107-188, Sec. 231(d)(2), substituted
"a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined
in section 178 of this title)" for "a disease organism".
1998 - Pub. L. 105-277, Sec. 201(b)(1)(A), inserted "certain"
before "weapons" in section catchline.
Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 105-277, Sec. 201(b)(1)(B), inserted "(other
than a chemical weapon as that term is defined in section 229F)"
after "weapon of mass destruction" in introductory provisions.
Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 105-277, Sec. 201(b)(1)(C), inserted "(other
than a chemical weapon (as that term is defined in section 229F))"
after "weapon of mass destruction".
1996 - Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 104-132, Secs. 511(c), 725(1)(A),
(B), in heading, inserted "Against a National of the United States
or Within the United States" after "Offense", and in introductory
provisions, substituted ", without lawful authority, uses,
threatens, or attempts" for "uses, or attempts" and inserted ",
including any biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms
are defined in section 178)" after "mass destruction".
Subsec. (a)(2). Pub. L. 104-132, Sec. 725(1)(C), inserted before
semicolon at end ", and the results of such use affect interstate
or foreign commerce or, in the case of a threat, attempt, or
conspiracy, would have affected interstate or foreign commerce".
Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 104-132, Sec. 725(4), added subsec. (b).
Former subsec. (b) redesignated (c).
Subsec. (b)(2)(B). Pub. L. 104-132, Sec. 725(2), as amended by
Pub. L. 104-294, Sec. 605(m), added subpar. (B) and struck out
former subpar. (B) which read as follows: "poison gas;".
Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 104-132, Sec. 725(3), redesignated subsec.
(b) as (c).

-End-

-CITE-
18 USC Sec. 921 01/03/2012 (112-90)

-EXPCITE-
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

-HEAD-
Sec. 921. Definitions

-STATUTE-
(a) As used in this chapter -
(1) The term "person" and the term "whoever" include any
individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership,
society, or joint stock company.
(2) The term "interstate or foreign commerce" includes commerce
between any place in a State and any place outside of that State,
or within any possession of the United States (not including the
Canal Zone) or the District of Columbia, but such term does not
include commerce between places within the same State but through
any place outside of that State. The term "State" includes the
District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the
possessions of the United States (not including the Canal Zone).
(3) The term "firearm" means (A) any weapon (including a starter
gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to
expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or
receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm
silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include
an antique firearm.
(4) The term "destructive device" means -
(A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas -
(i) bomb,
(ii) grenade,
(iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four
ounces,
(iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more
than one-quarter ounce,
(v) mine, or
(vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the
preceding clauses;

(B) any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell
which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as
particularly suitable for sporting purposes) by whatever name
known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a
projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, and
which has any barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in
diameter; and
(C) any combination of parts either designed or intended for
use in converting any device into any destructive device
described in subparagraph (A) or (B) and from which a destructive
device may be readily assembled.

The term "destructive device" shall not include any device which is
neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device,
although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is
redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing,
safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given
by the Secretary of the Army pursuant to the provisions of section
4684(2), 4685, or 4686 of title 10; or any other device which the
Attorney General finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, is an
antique, or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for
sporting, recreational or cultural purposes.
(5) The term "shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned,
made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and
designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an
explosive to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball
shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
(6) The term "short-barreled shotgun" means a shotgun having one
or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon
made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification or
otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of
less than twenty-six inches.
(7) The term "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made
or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed
or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive
to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each
single pull of the trigger.
(8) The term "short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having one or
more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made
from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if
such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-
six inches.
(9) The term "importer" means any person engaged in the business
of importing or bringing firearms or ammunition into the United
States for purposes of sale or distribution; and the term "licensed
importer" means any such person licensed under the provisions of
this chapter.
(10) The term "manufacturer" means any person engaged in the
business of manufacturing firearms or ammunition for purposes of
sale or distribution; and the term "licensed manufacturer" means
any such person licensed under the provisions of this chapter.
(11) The term "dealer" means (A) any person engaged in the
business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person
engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or
fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms,
or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term "licensed dealer"
means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this
chapter.
(12) The term "pawnbroker" means any person whose business or
occupation includes the taking or receiving, by way of pledge or
pawn, of any firearm as security for the payment or repayment of
money.
(13) The term "collector" means any person who acquires, holds,
or disposes of firearms as curios or relics, as the Attorney
General shall by regulation define, and the term "licensed
collector" means any such person licensed under the provisions of
this chapter.
(14) The term "indictment" includes an indictment or information
in any court under which a crime punishable by imprisonment for a
term exceeding one year may be prosecuted.
(15) The term "fugitive from justice" means any person who has
fled from any State to avoid prosecution for a crime or to avoid
giving testimony in any criminal proceeding.
(16) The term "antique firearm" means -
(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock,
flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system)
manufactured in or before 1898; or
(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if
such replica -
(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or
conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or
(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition
which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which
is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial
trade; or

(C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle
loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black
powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. For
purposes of this subparagraph, the term "antique firearm" shall
not include any weapon which incorporates a firearm frame or
receiver, any firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading
weapon, or any muzzle loading weapon which can be readily
converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt,
breechblock, or any combination thereof.

(17)(A) The term "ammunition" means ammunition or cartridge
cases, primers, bullets, or propellent powder designed for use in
any firearm.
(B) The term "armor piercing ammunition" means -
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a
handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence
of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of
tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or
depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber
designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a
weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the
projectile.

(C) The term "armor piercing ammunition" does not include shotgun
shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations
for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target
shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is
primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other
projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is
intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge
used in an oil and gas well perforating device.
(18) The term "Attorney General" means the Attorney General of
the United States (!1)

(19) The term "published ordinance" means a published law of any
political subdivision of a State which the Attorney General
determines to be relevant to the enforcement of this chapter and
which is contained on a list compiled by the Attorney General,
which list shall be published in the Federal Register, revised
annually, and furnished to each licensee under this chapter.
(20) The term "crime punishable by imprisonment for a term
exceeding one year" does not include -
(A) any Federal or State offenses pertaining to antitrust
violations, unfair trade practices, restraints of trade, or other
similar offenses relating to the regulation of business
practices, or
(B) any State offense classified by the laws of the State as a
misdemeanor and punishable by a term of imprisonment of two years
or less.

What constitutes a conviction of such a crime shall be determined
in accordance with the law of the jurisdiction in which the
proceedings were held. Any conviction which has been expunged, or
set aside or for which a person has been pardoned or has had civil
rights restored shall not be considered a conviction for purposes
of this chapter, unless such pardon, expungement, or restoration of
civil rights expressly provides that the person may not ship,
transport, possess, or receive firearms.
(21) The term "engaged in the business" means -
(A) as applied to a manufacturer of firearms, a person who
devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a
regular course of trade or business with the principal objective
of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the
firearms manufactured;
(B) as applied to a manufacturer of ammunition, a person who
devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing ammunition as
a regular course of trade or business with the principal
objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or
distribution of the ammunition manufactured;
(C) as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section
921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to
dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with
the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the
repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall
not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or
purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal
collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his
personal collection of firearms;
(D) as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section
921(a)(11)(B), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to
engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or
business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit,
but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional
repairs of firearms, or who occasionally fits special barrels,
stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
(E) as applied to an importer of firearms, a person who devotes
time, attention, and labor to importing firearms as a regular
course of trade or business with the principal objective of
livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the
firearms imported; and
(F) as applied to an importer of ammunition, a person who
devotes time, attention, and labor to importing ammunition as a
regular course of trade or business with the principal objective
of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the
ammunition imported.

(22) The term "with the principal objective of livelihood and
profit" means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of
firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary
gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating
a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit
shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and
repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal
purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term
"terrorism" means activity, directed against United States persons,
which -
(A) is committed by an individual who is not a national or
permanent resident alien of the United States;
(B) involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life which
would be a criminal violation if committed within the
jurisdiction of the United States; and
(C) is intended -
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation
or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination
or kidnapping.

(23) The term "machinegun" has the meaning given such term in
section 5845(b) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(b)).
(24) The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any
device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a
portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or
redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a
firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for
use in such assembly or fabrication.
(25) The term "school zone" means -
(A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private
school; or
(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a
public, parochial or private school.

(26) The term "school" means a school which provides elementary
or secondary education, as determined under State law.
(27) The term "motor vehicle" has the meaning given such term in
section 13102 of title 49, United States Code.
(28) The term "semiautomatic rifle" means any repeating rifle
which utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to
extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round, and
which requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each
cartridge.
(29) The term "handgun" means -
(A) a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be
held and fired by the use of a single hand; and
(B) any combination of parts from which a firearm described in
subparagraph (A) can be assembled.

[(30), (31) Repealed. Pub. L. 103-322, title XI, Sec. 110105(2),
Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2000.]
(32) The term "intimate partner" means, with respect to a person,
the spouse of the person, a former spouse of the person, an
individual who is a parent of a child of the person, and an
individual who cohabitates or has cohabited with the person.
(33)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C),(!2) the term
"misdemeanor crime of domestic violence" means an offense that -

(i) is a misdemeanor under Federal, State, or Tribal (!3) law;
and

(ii) has, as an element, the use or attempted use of physical
force, or the threatened use of a deadly weapon, committed by a
current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a
person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person
who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a
spouse, parent, or guardian, or by a person similarly situated to
a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim.

(B)(i) A person shall not be considered to have been convicted of
such an offense for purposes of this chapter, unless -
(I) the person was represented by counsel in the case, or
knowingly and intelligently waived the right to counsel in the
case; and
(II) in the case of a prosecution for an offense described in
this paragraph for which a person was entitled to a jury trial in
the jurisdiction in which the case was tried, either
(aa) the case was tried by a jury, or
(bb) the person knowingly and intelligently waived the right
to have the case tried by a jury, by guilty plea or otherwise.

(ii) A person shall not be considered to have been convicted of
such an offense for purposes of this chapter if the conviction has
been expunged or set aside, or is an offense for which the person
has been pardoned or has had civil rights restored (if the law of
the applicable jurisdiction provides for the loss of civil rights
under such an offense) unless the pardon, expungement, or
restoration of civil rights expressly provides that the person may
not ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms.
(34) The term "secure gun storage or safety device" means -
(A) a device that, when installed on a firearm, is designed to
prevent the firearm from being operated without first
deactivating the device;
(B) a device incorporated into the design of the firearm that
is designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not
having access to the device; or
(C) a safe, gun safe, gun case, lock box, or other device that
is designed to be or can be used to store a firearm and that is
designed to be unlocked only by means of a key, a combination, or
other similar means.

(35) The term "body armor" means any product sold or offered for
sale, in interstate or foreign commerce, as personal protective
body covering intended to protect against gunfire, regardless of
whether the product is to be worn alone or is sold as a complement
to another product or garment.
(b) For the purposes of this chapter, a member of the Armed
Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his
permanent duty station is located.

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 90-351, title IV, Sec. 902, June 19, 1968, 82 Stat.
226; amended Pub. L. 90-618, title I, Sec. 102, Oct. 22, 1968, 82
Stat. 1214; Pub. L. 93-639, Sec. 102, Jan. 4, 1975, 88 Stat. 2217;
Pub. L. 99-308, Sec. 101, May 19, 1986, 100 Stat. 449; Pub. L. 99-
360, Sec. 1(b), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766; Pub. L. 99-408, Sec.
1, Aug. 28, 1986, 100 Stat. 920; Pub. L. 101-647, title XVII, Sec.
1702(b)(2), title XXII, Sec. 2204(a), Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat.
4845, 4857; Pub. L. 103-159, title I, Sec. 102(a)(2), Nov. 30,
1993, 107 Stat. 1539; Pub. L. 103-322, title XI, Secs. 110102(b),
110103(b), 110105(2), 110401(a), 110519, title XXXIII, Sec.
330021(1), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 1997, 1999, 2000, 2014, 2020,
2150; Pub. L. 104-88, title III, Sec. 303(1), Dec. 29, 1995, 109
Stat. 943; Pub. L. 104-208, div. A, title I, Sec. 101(f) [title VI,
Sec. 658(a)], Sept. 30, 1996, 110 Stat. 3009-314, 3009-371; Pub. L.
105-277, div. A, Sec. 101(b) [title I, Sec. 119(a)], (h) [title I,
Sec. 115], Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681-50, 2681-69, 2681-480,
2681-490; Pub. L. 107-273, div. C, title I, Sec. 11009(e)(1), Nov.
2, 2002, 116 Stat. 1821; Pub. L. 107-296, title XI, Sec. 1112(f)(1)-
(3), (6), Nov. 25, 2002, 116 Stat. 2276; Pub. L. 109-162, title
IX, Sec. 908(a), Jan. 5, 2006, 119 Stat. 3083.)

Well there you have it.

 

[Bluenote]

It may be out of date but there hasn't been 'to date' one single WMD used in an actual military operation that matches the Hiroshima Bomb. I don't think the US military have tampered with the definition that much, they'll leave that for US Civil Defence.



A terror weapon doesn't need to be WMD to be effective or even all that good, it's the fear that does the damage long term.





Then you'll need to put up with the state becoming more intrusive.

Note that in the last you are stating pretty much what I've stated previously. And frankly Bob you really don't need to attempt to tell me much about the military and field definitions as regards i.e.d.s , you might be able to suss out why if you read carefully.

I have previously stated that the clowns accomplished their task , they shut down an entire American city , threw a goodly portion of the population into a panic , achieved and extended hyperbolic media reaction , and provoked an overtly paramilitary response.

And *NO* I don't have to " put up with the state becoming more intrusive" , in point of fact nobody does , at the present time the Constitution and Bill of Rights has not been so far eroded and emasculated so as to prevent the citizenry from voicing their collective displeasure at such intrusion.

That day *is* coming however , when it will be illegal to voice said displeasure or dissatisfaction , when some here may well be incarcerated simply for what resides on their bookshelves.

It should be no secret by now that I dislike our current set of politicians , top to bottom , Republican or Democrat........or for that matter the few disguising themselves as Libertarians.

 

[Bluenote]

http://activelydisengaged.com/actively-disengaged-68-thunderous-applause/

 

[Conscious Bob]

Note that in the last you are stating pretty much what I've stated previously. And frankly Bob you really don't need to attempt to tell me much about the military and field definitions as regards i.e.d.s , you might be able to suss out why if you read carefully.

I'll pass thanks.