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George Orwell: Animal Farm

Do you think that whole book is a parallel to what was happening in the USSR during that time period?
It seems like all of the characters, situations, and themes comment on that.

What was your favorite part of the book?

Did you like the movie or novel better?

Do you think every society turns out this way? Or does it happen to a certain extend and why???

What Character protrays you? Why?

What would you do if you were in this situation the animals were? How would you handle a dictatorship society?

Do you believe a leader should be like snowball or napoleon? Based on your opinon who do you think could run our society today?
 
1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy
2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
3. No animal shall wear clothes.
4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5. No animal shall drink alcohol.
6. No animal shall kill any other animal.
7. All animals are equal.

Snowball is the only true leader that cares for the other animals. Squeeler and Nepoleon at first have good intentions but then their thoughts go bad. When Nepoleon tells the cows that he will handle the milk he then taked the milk for the pigs to put in their mush. Nepoleon does tell the animals that the pigs are drinking the milk but then says that the pigs need the milk and apples more because they are the smarter of all the animals and need to feed there minds. Squeeler plays the role of mingling with the other farm animals and justifying Nepoleons excuses. Squeller says that they do need the milk and apples to keep the government, animal farm, running smoothely

The mood that is set in the beginning of the book is that all the animals generally want Animal Farm to work as there own gorvernment. They all look after one another as well as themselfs and try as hard as they can to not become like humans. Then to the middle of the book the pigs start to think of only themselfs and not others. This being ironic because the whole reason they decided to have animal farm is to be less like humans.....then their traits turning more and more to them. the author is trying to show this, that animals are like humans. That they are changing.

Animal Farm is definatly starting to fall apart. One by one the rules are being broken or changed. I am not sure how pigs and humans are genetically the same, but i do know that scientists say that pigs and humans are alot alike.
 
Boxer always says in the novel that "nepoleon is always right" and "i will work harder." These are very important in the novel because Boxer is the strongest animal on the farm. Other animals look up to him. Boxer saying that Nepoleon is always right does sink into the other animals heads because, boxer, is one of the hardest working animals.

The first comandment that is broken is that no animal shall sleep in a bed. One of the pigs, Nepoleon changes it however to, no animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets. He does this because then it is alright for him and the other pigs to sleep in the bed.

The pigs more and more are turning into humans. Not on the outside but on the inside. Their thoughts are more like a mans, their actions are more like a mans.

Snowball is not guilty of anything that Nepoleon said. Nepoleon only accused snowball of this to get ride of him seeing snowball as a threat to him. he was never a "spy of an sort." And as Nepoleon says more untruthful things, the animals start tto believe him more.

The book is really turning for the worst. There is no way that Animal Farm will be able to survive without boxer. Boxer was one of the only animals that really stayed motivated and he was the main source of work. Now that he is dead....nothing will ever come back to normal.
 
Well, I was going to open a discussion but it seems that you've said it all already

Well I enjoyed this one, though I don't see how you could read so few pages at a time (read it in one sitting :rolleyes: ).

I was also interested in the why pigs? I just thought Orwell picked the animals who did the least work on the farm other than humans. 'Lazy pig' is a common connotation. David Brin did say:
It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.
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If Snowball had realised what Napoleon had been doing earlier, could the perversion of the ideal have been prevented? Who could have stopped it? The people, the other farmers who were too busy bickering amongst themselves? As parallels are being drawn to current events, it's one to consider.

What did people think of the character of Benjamin? Was he the one who couldn't care less about politics until it was too late?

Would it be appropriate to have a sequel, or is it already evident that the notion of the farm is doomed to fail?
 
fluffy bunny said:
Well I enjoyed this one, though I don't see how you could read so few pages at a time (read it in one sitting :rolleyes: ).
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Can’t say I enjoyed it. I hope book discussion pages don’t get hijacked like this again — callow students being indoctrinated in neo-conservative newthink, encouraged to misinterpret a good book. This was the very thing Orwell (let's spell his name right, even if he was a “socialist bastard”) railed against. Only intelligent comment in six pages was from Phil.
“All men are created equal,” doesn’t it say, in preamble to some country’s constitution? Written, of course, by a slave owner. Which country was that again? Oh yes, I remember — United States of Hypocrisy.
 
fluffy bunny said:
I was referring to the book :rolleyes:
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Oh, I see. Sorry. Looking at the title above your quote I though you were saying you enjoyed the discussion. That's what I read in one sitting, getting more and more pissed off as I went from page to page…
 
Animal Farm

Is this book good???? It's by George Orwell. My brother read it and he said it was hard to understand......well it's a pretty short story so ill probably read it:)
 
I quite liked it. I read it when I was a teenager and haven't revisited it since, but I do remember really enjoying it. I like all of Orwell's stuff.
 
I LOVED Animal Farm. It was required reading back in high school. The story, on all levels, is quite entertaining, especially when you look at what Orwell was writing about. I'd definitely recommend it.
 
I see that you have made up your mind already! I read this book sometime back and loved it! Small book, easy read.
 
This is one of the best books I've ever read. It isn't very long but it has a strong message. I'd recommend it to anyone who would want to read political books.
 
This book was very interesting to me. I read it in an afternoon. If you know a good amount about the Russian Revolution, you can see different characters from the book mirror the characters from the actual event. It brings a good point as to why revolutions are garbage, same with the book 1984.
 
ecks said:
This book was very interesting to me. I read it in an afternoon. If you know a good amount about the Russian Revolution, you can see different characters from the book mirror the characters from the actual event. It brings a good point as to why revolutions are garbage, same with the book 1984.
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Speaking of... Has anyone read 1984? I have just read the Orwell essay "Shooting an Elephant" and was very impressed. I considering reading 1984, because I also like book's with a political message. Can anyone recommend it?
 
Loved it


I absolutely loved this book! It is one of my favourite to date. It was a wonderful story, with an even more wonderful message. On all levels, it's an intellectual read. You could see how the different animals mirrored different people, and I think it explores the political ideologies of revisionism and nazism with animals! I can't think of a better way!
A short and captivating read.
 
For some reason this went over a lot of people's heads when we read this in high school. I thought it was terrific. Of course I like things that have double or hidden meanings. I love the line "some animals are more equal than others".
That sums up the whole subject matter of the book.
 
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