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Is Fox News evil or stupid?

Is Fox News evil or stupid?

  • Evil. Muahahahahahaha

    Votes: 4 14.3%

  • Stupid. Hurr Durr Derp Derp

    Votes: 4 14.3%

  • Neither. There is a resonable explanation which I will now present.

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • Stewart. Fox News is both evil and stupid.

    Votes: 13 46.4%
  • Total voters
    28
Yeah. I was hoping we'd get at least a week before the usual crowd started going "Yes, it's horrible that a blond and blue-eyed self-proclaimed Christian Conservative decided to murder children by the clipful to show people they need to be afraid of muslims... but that doesn't mean he wasn't right!"

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What I know about Norwegian politics wouldn't fill a fairy's thimble, but why would the shooter think attacking Reform Party youths would help get rid of 'the Muslim threat' in Norway? I'm confused.
 
Because they're a fairly left-leaning political group who are open to the idea of very liberal immigration into Norway, something to which the shooter was opposed.
 
Will said:
Because they're a fairly left-leaning political group who are open to the idea of very liberal immigration into Norway, something to which the shooter was opposed.
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Thanks, I guessed it must be something similar. Still, I can't imagine why he'd think attacking kids would win friends and influence people to see thing his way.
 
abecedarian said:
What I know about Norwegian politics wouldn't fill a fairy's thimble, but why would the shooter think attacking Reform Party youths would help get rid of 'the Muslim threat' in Norway? I'm confused.
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First of all it's the Labour party (social democrats) not the Reform party (I don't think Norway even has one of those). I don't want to nitpick, but since it was explicitly an attack on that specific party, we might as well get it right. (Or left, as it were.)

From what I can tell from what has been said over the last few days, his goals were:
1. to paint himself as a hero and draw attention to his 1,500 page manifesto of how to "save" Norway and the rest of Scandinavia from what he perceived as the failure of multiculturalism, the dangers of Islamic terrorism, and... well, y'know, all that rhetoric that certain groups have been increasingly successful in spreading both in Europe and the US over the last 10 years or so. He considers it an act of war, and as such permissible for the greater good.
2. To strike a blow at the ruling party he perceived as responsible for that, and essentially cripple it by wiping out an entire future generation of active party members.

It's worth noting that most of the populist right in Scandinavia have spent the last couple of days mortally embarrassed and not a little scared that someone finally took their fearmongering literally and acted on it, and have been doing everything they can to distance themselves from this act. Unlike Glenn Beck, who seems only too happy to find himself on common ground with a man who methodically and coldly killed almost 100 people - most of them teenagers who he paints as "Hitler youth" for the crime of going to summer camp in one of the most open, stable democracies in the world.

Yeah, I'm pretty disgusted right now.
 
beer good said:
First of all it's the Labour party (social democrats) not the Reform party (I don't think Norway even has one of those). I don't want to nitpick, but since it was explicitly an attack on that specific party, we might as well get it right. (Or left, as it were.)

From what I can tell from what has been said over the last few days, his goals were:
1. to paint himself as a hero and draw attention to his 1,500 page manifesto of how to "save" Norway and the rest of Scandinavia from what he perceived as the failure of multiculturalism, the dangers of Islamic terrorism, and... well, y'know, all that rhetoric that certain groups have been increasingly successful in spreading both in Europe and the US over the last 10 years or so. He considers it an act of war, and as such permissible for the greater good.
2. To strike a blow at the ruling party he perceived as responsible for that, and essentially cripple it by wiping out an entire future generation of active party members.

It's worth noting that most of the populist right in Scandinavia have spent the last couple of days mortally embarrassed and not a little scared that someone finally took their fearmongering literally and acted on it, and have been doing everything they can to distance himself from this act. Unlike Glenn Beck, who seems only too happy to find himself on common ground with a man who methodically and coldly killed almost 100 people - most of them teenagers who he paints as "Hitler youth" for the crime of going to summer camp in one of the most open, stable democracies in the world.

Yeah, I'm pretty disgusted right now.
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Sorry about getting the party wrong...I can barely keep up with US politics. I listened to the whole Beck clip and wondered too about that Hitler Youth remark. He didn't elaborate or follow up on that, but I wondered at the off-hand way he seemed to dismiss those kids...Hitler Youth or not, I hope the world would have been appalled if someone shot up a campfull of German kids way back then.. Anyway, if he wanted to openly question what sort of camp these kids were attending, he really chose a poor way to go about it.
 
abecedarian said:
Hitler Youth or not
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Not. Really, really, REALLY not. Please don't even bother to qualify that.
Anyway, if he wanted to openly question what sort of camp these kids were attending, he really chose a poor way to go about it.
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That wasn't the point. This was a terrorist attack. The target wasn't the kids, the target was the policy of an entire country.
 
beer good said:
Not. Really, really, REALLY not. Please don't even bother to qualify that.

That wasn't the point. This was a terrorist attack. The target wasn't the kids, the target was the policy of an entire country.
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I'm just saying I agree with your anger over his comparing them to Hitler Youth. Oth, even if it was camp full of Neo-Nazi kids...shooting them would have been evil. Comparing those kids like that was just wicked.
 
It might be that the main target of the attack on that camp was Gro Harlem Brundtland. Even though she is not currently active in Norwegian politics she is a symbol for the norwegian labour party. She was giving a speech at the camp that day and had left just before the lunatic arrived.
 
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