The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich

[Răspunsul]

The germanic peoples were in Austro-Hungary and the Sudetenland, Dato, therefore Hitler was German.
If you look at the beginning of WWI you will see that as soon as the Austro-Hungarian Empire declared war on Serbia, Germany had to back them up.
As has been already said in this thread, WWI was the chief cause of WWII.
As a race they are very intelligent and hard working, after all they gave us Einstein, Mozart(German born in Austria) and the brilliant Beethoven. Without Von Brown, the Americans would never have reached the moon.
Whilst in the services I spent a great deal of time in Germany and they are mightily impressive.
I think the point made earlier about a united Europe in our time, is well made, if we assume Operation Sealion had been a success, then all of Europe would now be very united and it would have proably proved benificial in the long run. That is not to say I condone what the nazis did, but I am looking at the bigger picture.
Eventually once England was theirs, they would have calmed down and we would all be part of the admirable Green Party by now, no Sellafiled, but tidal and wind power, totally free fuel. The Germans were always ones to consider future innovations.
Have you read Robert Harris - Fatherland?
I think given your interest you would enjoy it?

Spot on.

 

[sparkchaser]

But that doesn't address why the UK would have been better off with an Axis victory.

Operation Sealion was doomed to failure. Barges full of men and equipment would be all too easy to sink.

 

[member]

A brilliant demonstration of how a forum should work.
Kudos to Dato for giving us his informative insight into this fascinating subject, thank you very much Dato

 

[DATo]

Many thanks member. It is a fascinating book. Though the subject of the book may seem repellent it serves as a very good compendium of facts relating to both the subject and the times. Though a book such as this may raise many vicarious sentiments, and though the expression of such sentiments is both welcome and in many cases instructive, I feel that it is important to remain focused on the book and what it has to offer to our understanding (in this case) of history. I am very grateful to all who have contributed their thoughts thus far.

 

[member]

Many thanks member. It is a fascinating book. Though the subject of the book may seem repellent it serves as a very good compendium of facts relating to both the subject and the times. Though a book such as this may raise many vicarious sentiments, and the though the expression of such sentiments is both welcome and in many cases instructive, I feel that it is important to remain focused on the book and what it has to offer to our understanding (in this case) of history. I am very grateful to all who have contributed their thoughts thus far.

You are a lovely man Dato.

 

[Peder]

Returning to topic, a poem:

Push, Punch,

Push, Punch,
Shove, Accuse,
Rhythm of Jackboots
On the march.

Kick, Stomp,
Lie, Deny,
Rhythm of jackboots
Going forward.

Punch, stomp,
Shove, deny,
Rhythm of jackboots
Squashing freedom.

Punch, Stomp, Punch, Stomp, Punch, Stomp,
Again and again, Until no more.

Peder
3-24-2014

 

[MrHill]

what a fascinating debate, the best i've seen on the site so far

 

[Mr.Marnier]

This thread inspired me to pull my copy down of the top shelf of my bookcase, and dig in!

 

[sparkchaser]

I really need to read this book.

As an aside, the Nazi Documentation Center in Nürnberg is top-notch.