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Vladimir Nabokov: The Enchanter

Steffee wrote--But the site on "sexual addiction" referred to "pedophiles" who try very hard to control the "urges" but fail to, and usually admit their wrongdoing immediately, and show remorse immediately, (although fear of being punished may prevent that in some instances) and generally have normal lives, normal interactions and relationships etc, can show affection appropriately or whatever... So, I dunno, is that HH or Arth
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That does sound like HH to a good extent. His remorse was immediate at the hotel. He compared it to a nightmare. Now Arthur seems a different stripe. Even given the short time he had to be remorseful, from bed to roadway, all he seemed to think about was how unfair life was to him. So he on a whim chucked the whole thing.
 
SFG75 said:
Freud wrote most of his material in the late 1800s and early 1900s. There are plenty of sources that document VN's dislike for Freud and that he intentionally wrote in the psychological element in Lolita. By the 50's, psychoanalysis was all the rage in America, at least in the academic world. You don't see any mentioning of psychology in The Enchanter, mostly due to the fact that before WWII, psychoanalysis was a somewhat esoteric subject in America.
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Ahhh, thanks for clearing that up :)
 
SFG75 said:
Turns out someone wrote a book titled: Freud & Nabokov
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SFG,
/jaw dropping to floor/ No way! Ya gotta be kidding! or the newer equivalent, Git outta here! :eek:

Really? /He says when he regains his composure/. :D
That bombshell sounds like a must read!
Goin over to check it out.
Peder
 
According to this site, "sexual addiction" has only been really widespread since the 1970s, when Patrick Carnes developed it... though the "idea" was around for much longer, so it may be Nabokov had his own ideas.

Characteristics are sexual behaviour that is "shameful", "secret" and "abusive", and it goes on to say

The beginnings of sexual addiction are usually rooted in adolescence or childhood. For starters, the child often grows up in a chaotic, hostile or neglectful home. Or, the family may have been very normal otherwise, but the child grows up emotionally starved for love because affection is rarely expressed.
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I can't believe I'm searching the internet for this :eek: :eek:
 
SFG75 said:
Turns out someone wrote a book titled: Freud & Nabokov
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SFG, how on earth do you find these? :D :D

I did read somewhere (maybe by someone on this and the Lolita threads) that Nabokov wrote Lolita in a kind of mock-Freudian way... I'm gonna search my uni library to see if they have this book :)
 
From the International VN society

A third trend has been interdisciplinary, building on Nabokov's own claim (based on his work as an entomologist) to have bridged the gap between the two cultures of literature and science, on the questions posed by his extreme antipathy to psychoanalysis, and particularly on the varied aesthetic, metaphysical, and religious issues raised by his work. The first two topics were the subject of the 1984 session on "Nabokov and the Passion of Science" and the 1986 panel devoted to "Nabokov on Freud and Freud on Nabokov," though the debate with psychoanalysis would surface again in papers drawing on Lacan that were presented in 1989 and 1992. The interlinked issues of Nabokov's aesthetics, metaphysics, and religion have been an especially lively topic, in part because on the surface Nabokov seems to violate the Russian tradition of using fiction to address the "big questions," in part because his self- proclaimed aestheticism is liable to misinterpretation in an Anglo-American setting, and in part because his wife Véra insisted on the crucial role in all his work of "potustoronnost'" (transcendence, or reaching toward another world) in her preface to a posthumous collection of Nabokov's Russian poetry (Stikhi, 1979). Following these various impulses, the society has organized sessions on "Nabokov, Philosophy, and the Arts" in 1987, on "Nabokov and Religion?" in 1993, and on Nabokov's provocative formula of "Aesthetic Bliss" in 1994. The issue of interdisciplinarity was also raised by a paper in the 1989 session on "Approaches to Teaching Nabokov."
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http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/nabsoc.htm
 
SFG,
It would be interesting to hear the papers and discussions at such conferences. The topics sound stratospheric! But that "Approaches to Teaching Nabokov" sounds like it would have been understandable and fascinating. I wonder if there is a corresponding "Approaches to Reading Nabokov" out there anywhere. That would be very helpful to us who are way below the stratosphere (and are not English Lit majors).
Peder
 
pontalba said:
Peder is the guinea pig this time...../ducking and running rapidly/tee hee/tra la/:D :D :p
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Still, Pontalba,
You bet I bought it! I wasn't going to wait for all of you to buy the few $19 copies and leave me with only the $99 copy to buy :eek: And I don't mind being the guinea pig :D Sight unseen it is a guinea pig in a poke, but it will have more than I know now I'm sure.
I'll keep ya posted :)
Peder
 
You know Peder, I noticed that some of the copies were prohibitively expensive. And I checked all around. Those 19 buck jobs were the best price anywhere. I wish I could find that James Mason bio for 19 dollars!! :(
 
StillILearn said:
Does this mean you bought it, Peder? :) :) :) I was putting my money on pontalba of the many bookselves! :D :D :D
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soon, soon.....

I've, um, been busy with other....titles...../she said blushing with embarrasment/

and I have to draw the line somewhere??, don't I??? Welllll.......don't I? :D
 
pontalba said:
soon, soon.....

I've, um, been busy with other....titles...../she said blushing with embarrasment/

and I have to draw the line somewhere??, don't I??? Welllll.......don't I? :D
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But what about those ten new shelves you've got to fill?! ;) :D
 
steffee said:
But what about those ten new shelves you've got to fill?! ;) :D
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Hah! As it turns out the studs are metal and I have to find a way to attach. I don't know if I can use the shelves now...:( . Have to ask a carpenter or someone at the local Home Depot if I can use metal screws to attach...????:( :( :( :confused:

I really want to use them on that particular wall, but it being an outer wall...oh well, I will use them somewhere.

Besides, I already have the books to fill that...:D
 
pontalba said:
Hah! As it turns out the studs are metal and I have to find a way to attach. I don't know if I can use the shelves now...:( . Have to ask a carpenter or someone at the local Home Depot if I can use metal screws to attach...????:( :( :( :confused:

I really want to use them on that particular wall, but it being an outer wall...oh well, I will use them somewhere.

Besides, I already have the books to fill that...:D
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Yeah, there's always places to put shelves! Shame about the metal studs, hope you can use them on the wall you'd like to :)
 
Peder said:
SFG,
It would be interesting to hear the papers and discussions at such conferences. The topics sound stratospheric! But that "Approaches to Teaching Nabokov" sounds like it would have been understandable and fascinating. I wonder if there is a corresponding "Approaches to Reading Nabokov" out there anywhere. That would be very helpful to us who are way below the stratosphere (and are not English Lit majors).
Peder
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All,
Well, guess what?!
Finally did the obvious and searched (Reading Approach Nabokov), turning up the following large article (~5 pages) that I have only read two pages of, but which seems relevant, or at least interesting:

Reading Nabokov Whole

In case anyone is interested, :eek: :)
Peder
Peder
 
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