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Vladimir Nabokov: Lolita
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StillILearn
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I took mine from my kitchen window while making my morning cuppa coffee. 
pontalba
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Why thanks Peder! 
You know SFG's post regarding VN's conscience, over on The Enchanter really applies to Lolita and The Enchanter. Its a good point and one that I hadn't formulated out loud so to speak.
In reading some of the screenplay, VN had so many good ideas with lovely Nabokovian twists that would have added so much more to the film. Its a shame someone doesn't pick it up as a mini-series on tv. No more 2 hour films.....10 hours or so at least.
You know SFG's post regarding VN's conscience, over on The Enchanter really applies to Lolita and The Enchanter. Its a good point and one that I hadn't formulated out loud so to speak.
In reading some of the screenplay, VN had so many good ideas with lovely Nabokovian twists that would have added so much more to the film. Its a shame someone doesn't pick it up as a mini-series on tv. No more 2 hour films.....10 hours or so at least.
steffee
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pontalba said:Curses! Now its my turn for not getting a picture or something! All I get are the x's in little boxes for the smilies that Steffee posted.
Forensic psychology sounds very interesting though. Is that the direction you are taking?
Strange about the pics, I guess I'll never understand!
I hate forensic psychology, to be honest. I wish I had never taken this module... the areas around rehabilitation programmes (prison or otherwise) are interesting, but that's about it. The whole of this module seems to centre on the validity (or not) of Eye Witness Testimony which is getting rather tedious, so I wanted to look into something different for my assignment, hence looking into actual experiences of how prisons are run...
I still say Lolita beats any textbook or website hands down, when learning about forensic (or any other) psychology, but I doubt my lecturers would see it that way
pontalba
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From the little I've read/heard it seems that if you have 5 witnesses, you'll get 5 different versions of the crime/accident. Which in a way makes sense, as everyone brings their own perceptions and history to the table.steffee said:The whole of this module seems to centre on the validity (or not) of Eye Witness Testimony which is getting rather tedious, so I wanted to look into something different for my assignment, hence looking into actual experiences of how prisons are run...
I still say Lolita beats any textbook or website hands down, when learning about forensic (or any other) psychology, but I doubt my lecturers would see it that way
Just look at the varying reactions to every character in Lolita! Then not only do you have the reactions to the book, there are the actors playing the roles aura to consider! No wonder this thread is what it is!!
steffee
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pontalba said:Just look at the varying reactions to every character in Lolita! Then not only do you have the reactions to the book, there are the actors playing the roles aura to consider! No wonder this thread is what it is!!
Yes, that's very true. Nabokov was a genius in writing Lolita in such a way that probably every person who reads it will have a different reaction to the next person, and so on, and even then, each person's opinion is likely to change a thousand times, both throughout the story, and afterwards.
Peder
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Steffee,steffee said:
That sounds like me!
I'm beginning to understand why I am having such difficulty!
But really, it is difficult enough sorting out thoughts in the much smaller and simpler Enchanter. (I still haven't fully done that either.) In Lolita it really takes digging (and rereading
) to find the clues. And everyone, but everyone, says Lolita is a different book when you reread it again.Peder
pontalba
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Not only reading, but to listen to the book is a whole new ball game. I caught things rolleyes: don't ask me now, it was two weeks ago!) that I did not notice in reading. Some of Iron's inflections were so right on the money, and some were unexpectedly delightful!
Yes, ya gotta listen!!
rolleyes: don't ask me now, it was two weeks ago!) that I did not notice in reading. Some of Iron's inflections were so right on the money, and some were unexpectedly delightful!Yes, ya gotta listen!!
Peder
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Pontalba.pontalba said:Not only reading, but to listen to the book is a whole new ball game. I caught things
Yes, ya gotta listen!!
Oh thank you for that! j/k j/k
I have them and I will, ....... someday.
But I have to agree with you, and I don't doubt I gotta listen. I find it sounds different when even I read passages out loud to myself (when no one is around of course, and definitely not in the coffee shop
). I guess because it makes me actually see the words and the sentences, and their meanings, instead of just taking in the words as my eyes fly by.I have Irons' reading, and both film DVD's. They are all on my Pile of Pious Hopes. (PPH) Maybe I can play them out loud some evening while I am sleeping.
But you are doing it the right way! And I do admire you that. /sigh/Sincerest thanks for the encouragement
Now I know I should really do it,
Peder
steffee
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Peder said:I find it sounds different when even I read passages out loud to myself (when no one is around of course, and definitely not in the coffee shop
Yeah, we believe ya Peder
Yes, audio books have never really interested me, but I do agree that I need to at least give them a try, and where better to start than with Lolita?!
Peder
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Steffee,steffee said:Yeah, we believe ya Peder
Yes, audio books have never really interested me, but I do agree that I need to at least give them a try, and where better to start than with Lolita?!
Actually I do think audio books are great, not that you would judge it from my groaning response. The few I have listened to were mysteries and they did really keep my interest. One of them I listened to about four times. I imagine Irons is as fabulous as pontalba says!
Peder
PS And I didn't mean I sounded great -- far from it! I just meant that reading aloud slowed the reading down to conversational speed where the writing could be absorbed easier, at least by me.
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pontalba
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Peder said:Pontalba.
Oh thank you for that! j/k j/k
I have them and I will, ....... someday.
But I have to agree with you, and I don't doubt I gotta listen. I find it sounds different when even I read passages out loud to myself (when no one is around of course, and definitely not in the coffee shop
I have Irons' reading, and both film DVD's. They are all on my Pile of Pious Hopes. (PPH) Maybe I can play them out loud some evening while I am sleeping.
Sincerest thanks for the encouragement
Now I know I should really do it,
Peder
My Work Is Done....
Pile of Pious Hopes........LOL I'll have to remember thatone..!
pontalba
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Oh Pish! No Problem! Easily Done.....Peder said:Pontalba,
I'm afraid once won't be enough!
You're probably going to have to keep after me if I'm ever going to get it done!
You are going to have to lay a guilt on me, as we say in NYC, and make me feel truly irresponsible.
Peder
Peder
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Peder said:Pontalba,
ROTFALOL!
Uh-oh! Now I can see there is no escaping!
Peder
But, Pontalba,
I see it won't quite be as simple as that, either.
I just went to move it to the top of PPH, and couldn't find it.
It must be deep down in the Pile of Forgotten Hopes (PFH), or even possibly not yet taken out of the of the Borders bag that it came home in. And unfortunately there are at least several of those also. /oh guilt, oh shame/
But I'll find it,
It's around here somewhere
Peder