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What's the Point Of BAR/TBF Blog

You're thread has hit such a groundswell of support that people are backing you up continuously on your assertion that it's not needed. . . .NOT!. 3-0 pro-blog (mr_michel, occlith, abecedarian)

You DID create a thread knocking Darren for not being present on the board at all times. It was deleted and you were allowed to continue on. You haven't owed up to it, and you need to.

I doubt your sincerity as you dont' participate much and all of a sudden, an oportunity opens up for you to knock Darren for how he runs his board yet again. You DID criticize the blog option and you DID misrepresent abecedarian's post. Nice evidence to back up your assertions bro, try again.

Yeah, keep trying to make it personal, that's still ignoring that you need to apologize.

Oh,

WHERE IS YOUR APOLOGY TO DARREN FOR CRITICIZING HIM FOR BEING "ABSENT"?
 
sigh....if it'll get you to shut up and let this thread get back on track....

I have nothing to apologise for. I stand by everything I've ever posted in regards to Darren.

I've emailed and pm'd him plenty in the past. Never once has he asked me what any specific post was about. He replied to my topic in this thread. He did not mention a problem with my post there either.

You appear to be the only one with the problem. (I think I stated that earlier)

ABC responded to my posts. She does not have a problem.
You appear to be the only one with a problem. (yep...stated that earlier...)

You are causing problems where they don't exist. You are reading things into a thread where they don't exist. You have some arrogance in trying to tell people what they think and what motives they have.

I think the only person here who owes anybody an apology is you. You owe the entire forum an apology for your off-the-wall attitude and childishness in this thread.
 
Motokid said:
There's only one person with a problem here.
There's only one person having a negative effect on this thread, and the forum as a whole.

There's only one person here with a problem.

First initial: "S"
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you know, uncle Joe G. used to say that if you repeat that long enough it may become true :D
 
Motokid said:
sigh....if it'll get you to shut up and let this thread get back on track....

I have nothing to apologise for. I stand by everything I've ever posted in regards to Darren.

I've emailed and pm'd him plenty in the past. Never once has he asked me what any specific post was about. He replied to my topic in this thread. He did not mention a problem with my post there either.

You appear to be the only one with the problem. (I think I stated that earlier)

ABC responded to my posts. She does not have a problem.
You appear to be the only one with a problem. (yep...stated that earlier...)

You are causing problems where they don't exist. You are reading things into a thread where they don't exist. You have some arrogance in trying to tell people what they think and what motives they have.

I think the only person here who owes anybody an apology is you. You owe the entire forum an apology for your off-the-wall attitude and childishness in this thread.
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Let's stick to the FACTS shall we?

Contention #1-there is nothing to complain about.

mr_michel made the above comment. You disagreed and stated that you weren't. I posted this, which clearly contradicts your assertion:

Plus....don't people who want blogs already have them? They are free
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That is a criticism. Your only come back was something about my mental health or needing warm milk. Try and take it to the realm of the personal when the facts don't back you up, obviously, it's the only prayer that you have. Too bad I won't take the bait eh? I have an annoying habit of sticking to the matter at hand.

Contention #2-abecedarian said your thread was great for conversation, at least, that is what you posted.

I proved you wrong by quoting her entire post.

I see the blog option as another opportunity to visit with the folks. There has not been many chatty threads here, even in the general chat area, and this is a way to remedy that perhaps. I think it's a good move. If I'm wrong, at least an effort was made, and I'm glad for that.
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It is clear that she is referencing the blog option. Please, point to where she says THIS THREAD is good for more action in the above post!! Your continued silence on this matter is very convincing.:rolleyes: See the enlarged beginning. That introduces what she is talking about. In a lot of sentence, the main subject is mentioned early on.

Contention #3-You DID criticize Darren for being "absent" on the board. This is important as you only seem to pipe up about TBF/BAR when you have a chance to knock him around.

You need to do the right thing Moto. I've done it a number of times here and elsewhere. At least have the decency to PM an apology to him. He deserves at least that much.

Do you get it yet?

WHERE IS YOUR APOLOGY TO DARREN FOR CRITICIZING HIM FOR BEING "ABSENT"?
 
Motokid said:
Good to see you Kenny.
What are your feelings on the new TBF/BAR Blogs?
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BAR needs to do something to get people discussing books again. I don't come here all that often anymore, so I may not be in the best position to judge, but the amount of quality book discussion seems to have steadily diminished in the couple of years I've been using the site.

Blogs might be a way to turn that round so I guess it's worth a try, but it runs the risk of taking the few good posts off the forum and into another area which might not be as readily visible to the casual viewer of the forum.

I’m not sure what the answer is to getting a healthy internet board about literature, as they all seem to descend into cliquey groups of people discussing the same few books or else have no interesting content at all. Perhaps the Internet just isn’t the best place for talking about books?
 
Kenny Shovel said:
Blogs might be a way to turn that round so I guess it's worth a try, but it runs the risk of taking the few good posts off the forum and into another area which might not be as readily visible to the casual viewer of the forum.
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And that, good sir, is all I was questioning.

Thank you.
 
Kenny Shovel said:
I’m not sure what the answer is to getting a healthy internet board about literature, as they all seem to descend into cliquey groups of people discussing the same few books or else have no interesting content at all. Perhaps the Internet just isn’t the best place for talking about books?
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Last fall I tried to get a face to face book group off the ground in my community and while I had lots of people express interest, I never had more than 4-6 people attend a meeting..and never the same ones twice in a row.The ladies who attended with one exception, were only interested in light romantic fiction, so my reading lists stuck out like the proverbial sore thumb. I'd love to see BAR revived too and will do what I can to help. The net meets a need for some of us anyway.
 
Motokid said:
And that, good sir, is all I was questioning.

Thank you.
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No comment on the documented proof that you are in the wrong?


Run from the facts Moto!, Run!

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SFG75 said:
No comment on the documented proof that you are in the wrong?


Run from the facts Moto!, Run!
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Whoever's right or wrong is not the issue here.
The topic is whether blogging is useful or detrimental to this book forum. I'd like to see more ideas about how to keep this place active and alive. You both have so much energy, please don't waste it like this.
 
ENOUGH


ABC is right. Please stop. If you guys want to discuss the pros and cons of blogging here, then go for it. If you want to bicker over other things, please do it by PM or email. Please! PS: No mentions about who started it, whose fault it is, or whether or not you're trying to back out of it. Just kill it. OK?
 
mehastings said:
If you guys want to discuss the pros and cons of blogging here, then go for it.
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Which obviously brings us full circle back to post #1. :)

Motokid said:
What's the point of the BAR/TBF blog?

Doesn't it take away from the idea of forum discussion and place these thoughts and ideas in "another" area that might not invite conversation?

If the idea of a forum is to promote conversation then I don't get why members would need the blog.

What is it you might post in a TBF/BAR blog that you wouldn't otherwise post in a thread?

I just think that giving people blogs will further detract from the posting at BAR/TBF.

Plus....don't people who want blogs already have them? They are free.

I even hate using the word "blog".

So, comments please. Please explain.
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(I combined my first two posts and highlighted the main point I was making :D )

To which the Admin of the forum replied:
Darren said:
Blogs are a kind of journal, so I think you'd tend to post your thoughts and ideas in it. You can set entries as private, or just make them visible to your buddy list or certain other members. Althought there is a comments feature for each blog entry, they're not meant for long discussions.

There was a discussion here and here a while back and these are examples of what a blog can be used for.

True, you could setup a blog on any of the free blog sites, or you could even buy a domain and hosting space and install your own blog, but why not do it here where your fellow readers and friends already are?
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And Kenny obviously understood with:
Kenny Shovel said:
it runs the risk of taking the few good posts off the forum and into another area which might not be as readily visible to the casual viewer of the forum.
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So, what say you, other members of the forum?
What about you mehastings? What are your thoughts on the blogs?
 
I want to ask, will the old posts in the blog be deleted after a period of time or will it stay forever?
 
So, what say you, other members of the forum?
What about you mehastings? What are your thoughts on the blogs?
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Since the question is being asked, this is the last place I would ever again post any open, honest, informal, truthful, unguarded thoughts of mine. Been there, done that.
 
I'm interested in seeing how the blogs go, I like reading other people's thoughts more than I like posting anyways. I think that having an area with your name on it makes you feel more comfortable posting there, so interesting things could come from it. If they don't work out that way, then they will probably fade out and the forum has really not lost anything.
 
A little early to be debating this isn't it? I mean, it has barely gotten off of the ground. But while we're at the irrational exuberance of premature examination, the record speaks for itself. A good number of our regular members set up accounts and it appears that the blog section is thriving.
 
Motokid said:
The question is:

Will the forum lose something because the blogs exist?
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If we all make a pact to steer book talks back to the forum it should be a fine thing to have here. One feature that works well at TFS is that each member has a specific thread for their own book lists and stuff. It isn't a separate blog, and it's a nice place to 'house' such things. I like having a blogging option here for posting stuff that really doesn't fit the neatly anywhere else. There's been times I wanted to talk about stuff that was going here in Outer Mundania, but didn't feel BAR was the place to do that, although some of my favorite people are right here. Now some of my favorite people are scattered over at least three forums, so it gets a little messy..
 
Will the forum lose something because the blogs exist?
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I don't think so, it's been slow thread/discussion wise around here, I think there's a lot of people reading but not posting or posting in a negative, nonproductive way, many have left or just linger without getting very involved and there's many new members coming on, stumbling on the old bits and pieces, this gives them a place to go and get a feel for the present membership and what they read/think and hopefully make them feel more comfortable posting and like they know the other members better. I'd think it would encourage discussion and hopefully warm the place, give it a homey, personal feel.
 
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